Disadvantaged by going through agency?

Gael23

If I apply for a job via an agency but the company are also recruiting thmseslves for the position, am I at a disadvantage? As in wouldn’t they have to pay the agency a fee to hire me.
Have already had an interview and awaiting feedback but only since have seen the job advertised by company themselves.

Gael23

Any opinions on this?

someyoke

Gael23 wrote: »

Any opinions on this?

Happened me in last job, only noticed after I looked on indeed when informed by agency, still got the job but probably sacrificed 3-5k salary going through agency..
If you're best person for job most companies don't baulk at agency fee. But sign up for notifications from Irishjobs etc and if it's agency advertising look for the same job spec on indeed.ie where most companies go direct

Twenty Grand

Some companies only hire through agencies.

You'll should still get a chance to negotiate your salary.

flange888

One thing to bear in mind is that alot of companies pay an annual fee for the services of agencies so it wouldn't make any difference in that case.

Gael23

But if they are doing both are they more likely to choose a candidate that costs them the least?

wally79

Gael23 wrote: »

But if they are doing both are they more likely to choose a candidate that costs them the least?

They will pick the best candidate. Agency fee is irrelevant. That’s short term thinking

Now if there were 2 equally suitable candidates it may be the deciding factor but there will always be some deciding factor

jimmii

Gael23 wrote: »

But if they are doing both are they more likely to choose a candidate that costs them the least?

If they are that sort of company then you probably don't want to work for them. A good company is hiring the best person for the job as that should be much more valuable to them. If they are paying a flat fee per hire then it's already going to have been budgeted for so shouldn't come into the equation in who gets hired.

OMM 0000

They will hire the best person.

If you made it to the final round, and it was you (applied via agency) vs Joe (applied directly), and you're basically the same as each other, HR would prefer to choose Joe (no agency fee).

However:

When you apply via an agency, they will try to sell you to the employer. They will alert the employer to your CV. Whereas applying directly might go to a mailbox the lazy HR person rarely checks.

So there are pros and cons for both.

Personally I would apply directly.

Gael23

OMM 0000 wrote: »

They will hire the best person.

If you made it to the final round, and it was you (applied via agency) vs Joe (applied directly), and you're basically the same as each other, HR would prefer to choose Joe (no agency fee).

However:

When you apply via an agency, they will try to sell you to the employer. They will alert the employer to your CV. Whereas applying directly might go to a mailbox the lazy HR person rarely checks.

So there are pros and cons for both.

Personally I would apply directly.

I’ve already had an interview for the job abd waiting to hear.
I just had a thought last night if they hire me then they have to pay my salary plus the agency fee so by not picking me it saves them money

Gael23

wally79 wrote: »

They will pick the best candidate. Agency fee is irrelevant. That’s short term thinking

Now if there were 2 equally suitable candidates it may be the deciding factor but there will always be some deciding factor

That’s the bit I wasn’t sure of. I thought they would want to save themselves money if that got a similar applicant themselves

OMM 0000

Gael23 wrote: »

I’ve already had an interview for the job abd waiting to hear.
I just had a thought last night if they hire me then they have to pay my salary plus the agency fee so by not picking me it saves them money

They already have the budget for it if they got an agency involved.

I wouldn't overthink it.

Note I am assuming this is a large company. Obviously a small company, privately owned, is going to have a much more money conscious owner.

seamus

Gael23 wrote: »

I’ve already had an interview for the job abd waiting to hear.
I just had a thought last night if they hire me then they have to pay my salary plus the agency fee so by not picking me it saves them money

Unless they're a really small company and you're looking for a six-figure salary, then the agency fee is peanuts in the grand scheme.

And they don't have to pay the whole fee up front, they typically hold some of it back until you've completed probation.

Don't overthink it. In many ways an agency can be useful - the agent can smell the commission off you, so he will advocate for you in a way that you won't.

One major difference I've noticed between agents and direct apply is that you're rarely left chasing up feedback or answers with an agent. They want to get you through the process one way or another, so won't be afraid of ringing the company up to find out what the story is.

Esse85

As much as I hate agencies, I'd suggest using them here.
This way you can get feedback from the agency on the people interviewing you, you will find out more about the role, the agency might have a relationship with the hiring company already.

Also you'll have the recruiter batting for you as they'll want to get you hired to land their commission.

Gael23

seamus wrote: »

Unless they're a really small company and you're looking for a six-figure salary, then the agency fee is peanuts in the grand scheme.

And they don't have to pay the whole fee up front, they typically hold some of it back until you've completed probation.

Don't overthink it. In many ways an agency can be useful - the agent can smell the commission off you, so he will advocate for you in a way that you won't.

One major difference I've noticed between agents and direct apply is that you're rarely left chasing up feedback or answers with an agent. They want to get you through the process one way or another, so won't be afraid of ringing the company up to find out what the story is.

I am looking at salaries around the 30k level which is as much as I can ask for with my experience.

Jim2007

Gael23 wrote: »

If I apply for a job via an agency but the company are also recruiting thmseslves for the position, am I at a disadvantage? As in wouldn’t they have to pay the agency a fee to hire me.
Have already had an interview and awaiting feedback but only since have seen the job advertised by company themselves.

If you have already had an interview, then you can assuming that the employer is aware of the agency costs and it is not an issue. Relax.

The Nutty M

Gael23 wrote: »

I’ve already had an interview for the job abd waiting to hear.
I just had a thought last night if they hire me then they have to pay my salary plus the agency fee so by not picking me it saves them money

BIO 2 by any chance?

Gael23

Well I didn’t get the job