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What Men Want

  • 09-02-2019 11:27pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90,371 ✭✭✭✭


    Taraji P. Henson taking the Mel Gibson lead role (Jerry Maguire :P) in this gender reversal reboot directed by Adam Shankman, mixed reviews so far



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    Looks woeful, void of any charm the original had, the trailer literally had a dick and also a fart joke..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,264 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I'll be giving that a wide berth.

    Usually trailers are meant to make you wanna see a film ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Heard this described as this year's version of the Overboard remake. Seems an apt comparison.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,332 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    This looks very bad.

    However, What Women Want was very bad, so nothing of value will have been compromised regardless of how this turns out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,111 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    This looks very bad.

    However, What Women Want was very bad, so nothing of value will have been compromised regardless of how this turns out.

    But it's being compared to mid period Fellini?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    It might flop, like the recent Ghostbusters film did


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,481 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    This looks very bad.

    However, What Women Want was very bad, so nothing of value will have been compromised regardless of how this turns out.

    Agreed. What Women Want was a trainwreck. I didn't know what to expect with it but I was still disappointed.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I liked What Women Want


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,521 ✭✭✭Wheety


    This movement to remake movies but swap the genders is awful. Just make a new movie with women in the leading roles.

    What's next? The Great Escape? Italian Job? Schindler's List?

    Why not remake The Full Monty with women? :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    I think the relationship between the main character and his daughter in what women want was good, and there were some very funny scenes in it. Wasn't a bad film overall. You never actually learn what women want though.

    I can just imagine this "remake" will be terrible as it will turn out all men really want is to show their sensitive side and cry into their cornflakes, apart from the toxic masculity sufferers, who want to rape everything in sight, but I am hoping to be proven wrong.

    Oh yeah the bad men will all be white and the good ones all non white. How did I do?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    Just watched the trailer. Way worse than I thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,484 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Surely everyone already knows the answer: "to be left in peace with a nice pint and the paper"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,360 ✭✭✭Lorelli!


    Wheety wrote: »

    Why not remake The Full Monty with women? :-)

    Well you could say The Full Monty was sort of a genderswap remake of Striptease...

    The Full Monty: 'After losing his job at a steel factory, Gaz (Robert Carlyle) learns that his wife wants to sue him for missed child support payments. Desperate for money, Gaz and his friend Dave (Mark Addy) decide to create their own male strip-tease act...'

    Striptease: 'When her ex-husband gets custody of their daughter, former FBI office assistant Erin Grant (Demi Moore) needs money to fight the legal case to get her child back...'

    Only The Full Monty was a comedy and Striptease was a flop! :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Wheety wrote: »
    This movement to remake movies but swap the genders is awful. Just make a new movie with women in the leading roles.

    What's next? The Great Escape? Italian Job? Schindler's List?

    Why not remake The Full Monty with women? :-)

    Leave the pearl-clutching, I didn't realise we lived in a world were What Women Want was culturally sacrosanct :D :rolleyes: In any case, the gender-swap is about as old as Hollywood itself and you can go back as far as His Girl Friday in 1940 for examples of flipping the gender.

    And it's not even gender flipping either; how many films in Hollywood can be described with suffixes along the lines of ".. but with women!", "... but with pets!", "... but in space!" etc. etc.

    And hey, when done right it actually changes the story and dynamic; witness something like Judy Dench becoming the new M - Skyfall's entire plot would have been a different beast altogether with Ralph Fiennes in the role instead. The entire matriarchal element disappears.

    As for What Men Want: it looks like utter crud, and seems to be reviewing thus as well. What Women Want was also utter crud so the world will keep spinning and nothing will have been lost or gained.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,566 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Lorelli! wrote: »
    Well you could say The Full Monty was sort of a genderswap remake of Striptease...
    British comedy Calendar Girls was the female equivalent.

    I have no issue with remaking less than classic movies. What I cannot take any more is films based on someone banging their head (or similar) and waking up in someone else's body/life, or having magically [insert plot premise].


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Mona Lisa Smile was the female equivalent of Dead Poets Society


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    Steaming pile of poo from the looks of it. ConAnne the Barbarian will be next


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,332 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I know the 'gender swap remake' has become one of the odd battlegrounds of the culture wars (to the point it even engulfs one of the most immediately forgettable rom-coms of the 1990s, evidently!). But there's few if any conceits more logically, naturally suited to a gender swap than the one at the core of What Women Want. I mean, the conceits absolutely awful, but the obvious next step is to look at it from the opposite perspective.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Absolutely, it's an objectively obvious sequel given the format and conceit of the film. But sure it's easier just to pretend there's some Great Slight in the works.

    ... who knew men were such delicate snowflakes?

    *gets coat and leaves*

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    Lorelli! wrote: »
    Only The Full Monty was a comedy and Striptease was a flop! :)
    I was a 14 year old boy when I saw Striptease. Flop is not the word I personally would use to describe my experience with it.... :o


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,360 ✭✭✭Lorelli!


    Autecher wrote: »
    I was a 14 year old boy when I saw Striptease. Flop is not the word I personally would use to describe my experience with it.... :o

    :pac: edge of your seat movie? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Hard movie?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,699 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Does Mel make a cameo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I don't think so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Wheety wrote: »
    This movement to remake movies but swap the genders is awful. Just make a new movie with women in the leading roles.

    What's next? The Great Escape? Italian Job? Schindler's List?

    Why not remake The Full Monty with women? :-)

    there is a woke version of dirty rotten scoundrels around the corner...cant wait :rolleyes:

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Lorelli! wrote: »
    :pac: edge of your seat movie? :D

    There wasn’t a dry seat in the house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    silverharp wrote: »
    there is a woke version of dirty rotten scoundrels around the corner...cant wait :rolleyes:
    You can't be calling women Dirty Rotten Scoundrels though as that would be very sexist and misogynistic. It would be called Clean Fresh Queens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Dirty Rotten Scoundrels itself is a remake of a 1964 film called Bedtime Story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    There's potentially interesting themes to explore here like having to put up a strong front, trying to fit in with bro culture but not getting it, that kind of thing (Gillette would be happy). But the trailer just gives the impression that all the men will be "hur hur dur dur". The fart joke, for example :/

    🤪



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    branie2 wrote: »
    Dirty Rotten Scoundrels itself is a remake of a 1964 film called Bedtime Story

    Hush now, don't be bringing common sense into this thread; we're meant to be ANGRY! Grr! Women, or something!

    First they steal our manly Ghostbusting jobs, now they want our Magical-Reality-Gender-Morality-Tale films too!

    Grr!

    :rolleyes: :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,699 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I can't remember much of the original besides the premise, but from the trailer this seems more of a girl boss movie a la The Intern, etc and as such probably owes more to Working Girl and similar films from the '80s/90s that glamourised working women.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    I recently watched Cinema Sins on What Women Want and it shows just how bad the first one was.

    The original could actually be re-made and so could an alternative and be quite clever about it. This won't be it though.

    If they do remake the original I hope they dedicate a scene to the "where do you want to eat?" endless debate.


  • Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The original survived purely on Gibson being in his pomp, at the time. It is cringe inducing (and what a bloody waste of Tomei)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,849 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    evil_seed wrote: »
    Steaming pile of poo from the looks of it. ConAnne the Barbarian will be next

    Red Sonja already has that well covered!


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