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Glas Traditional hay meadow - No topping

  • 08-02-2019 2:03pm
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    80sDiesel
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    Quick question. Why does the Glas scheme allow spraying/licking of rushes and not topping ?

    A man is rich in proportion to the number of things which he can afford to let alone.



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    Waffletraktor
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    To give a chance to the traditional flora that's choked out by the prg high input monoculture and almost dissapeared. The use of chems would be reasonably targeted on the rushy area which wouldn't be much use.


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    80sDiesel
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    Waffletraktor wrote: »
    To give a chance to the traditional flora that's choked out by the prg high input monoculture and almost dissapeared. The use of chems would be reasonably targeted on the rushy area which wouldn't be much use.

    tnks. i thought it was for nesting birds.

    A man is rich in proportion to the number of things which he can afford to let alone.



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    Waffletraktor
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    80sDiesel wrote: »
    tnks. i thought it was for nesting birds.

    I'd say you could put it under the banner of all rare and decreasing flora and fauna.


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    riemann
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    80sDiesel wrote: »
    Quick question. Why does the Glas scheme allow spraying/licking of rushes and not topping ?

    It only allows spot spraying.


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    Aravo
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    riemann wrote:
    It only allows spot spraying.


    Spot spraying and weed licking.


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    80sDiesel wrote: »
    Quick question. Why does the Glas scheme allow spraying/licking of rushes and not topping ?
    Topping is allowed but not after March 15th and until the meadow is mowed - see points 7 and 9 on page 51/52 of the GLAS T&C's link.
    https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/farmingschemesandpayments/glastranche1/GLASTranche1Spec161015.pdf
    Edit - we didn't choose THM as part of our GLAS plan so I had to look up the rules.


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    riemann
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    Aravo wrote: »
    Spot spraying and weed licking.

    Yes and not boom spraying. I don't think an explanation as to why is needed.

    Got some glas lipp ground licked this year by a contractor with a quad set up. 30eur an hour, I supplied the chemical. Serious results.


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    bbeeforsalmon
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    Re spraying of trad hay meadows:

    Spec says rushes must be controlled by spot spraying/ weed licking. There is no reference to spraying for other weeds so I assume it IS permitted but I notice a Teagasc say it is not. I need to control plantain and dandelions before there is no grass left. Has anyone clarified this with planner or Dept?


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    bbeeforsalmon wrote: »
    Re spraying of trad hay meadows:

    Spec says rushes must be controlled by spot spraying/ weed licking. There is no reference to spraying for other weeds so I assume it IS permitted but I notice a Teagasc say it is not. I need to control plantain and dandelions before there is no grass left. Has anyone clarified this with planner or Dept?
    You can control noxious/invasive weeds and rushes by weed wiping or spot spraying. Blanket spraying isn't allowed.

    https://www.teagasc.ie/media/website/publications/2018/Environment-Newsletter-April-2018.pdf


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    Birdnuts
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    bbeeforsalmon wrote: »
    Re spraying of trad hay meadows:

    Spec says rushes must be controlled by spot spraying/ weed licking. There is no reference to spraying for other weeds so I assume it IS permitted but I notice a Teagasc say it is not. I need to control plantain and dandelions before there is no grass left. Has anyone clarified this with planner or Dept?

    A traditonal Hay meadow would have these species in it - they are harmless to livestock and indeed provided many trace elements and give some natural protection from worms and other parasites. Blanket spraying is certainly not allowed under GLAS as it would entirely defeat the purpose of this element of the scheme


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    Birdnuts wrote: »
    A traditonal Hay meadow would have these species in it - they are harmless to livestock and indeed provided many trace elements and give some natural protection from worms and other parasites. Blanket spraying is certainly not allowed under GLAS as it would entirely defeat the purpose of this element of the scheme
    We didn't choose THM as one of our options but went with LIPP. I drive around the fields in the jeep with a battery operated pump connected to a hand held lance and 20 litres of herbicide. I have a handheld operator licence so it sorta covers.


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