Parental Leave / Sick Leave query

hopehope

Hi there,

There's an employee in our company, and he informed us (payroll team) that he will take 3 days unpaid parental leave in Dec 2018, so we deducted the amount of his parental leave i.e. 3 days' pay from Dec salary.

But in fact we found in Jan 2019, he did not take 3 days parental leave, but took 3 days sick leave in Dec 2018 instead.

So how to make adjustment in his payslip in this month Jan 2019? we did not process his sick leave in Dec 2018 as we treated it as parental leave in Dec 2018..


Headache! Thanks so much!

EverythingGood

hopehope wrote: »

Hi there,

There's an employee in our company, and he informed us (payroll team) that he will take 3 days unpaid parental leave in Dec 2018, so we deducted the amount of his parental leave i.e. 3 days' pay from Dec salary.

But in fact we found in Jan 2019, he did not take 3 days parental leave, but took 3 days sick leave in Dec 2018 instead.

So how to make adjustment in his payslip in this month Jan 2019? we did not process his sick leave in Dec 2018 as we treated it as parental leave in Dec 2018..


Headache! Thanks so much!

Give him 3 days parental leave and just pay him normal wages (I take it from above you pay sick leave)

hopehope

Thank you so much, for example, his normal wage is 36000 per year, 3000 per month, and 138.46 per day. So his Dec pay was 3000-138.46*3=2584.62. But he did not take parental leave and he did take sick leave, then his salary in Dec should have been 3000 - (sick leave payment from social protection department), right? And he will receive separate sick leave benefit amt from social protection department...

so we need refund him 138.46*3 in Jan 2019, and also reduce 3000 by sick leave payment from social protection department?

hopehope

and how much would be 3 days sick leave amount from social protection department? Our company receive the payment from social protection department and give the amount to the employee, does that mean our company will reduce the employee monthly salary 3000 by the amount of sick leave benefit, in the meanwhile?

I am new to payroll industry...:(

The_Chap

There are 6 (I think) waiting days before you get illness benefit from the social, so taking 3 days won’t be paid

hopehope

Thanks so much, if 3 days is not paid, then does it mean not adjustment to be made in Jan 2019, since both sick leave and unpaid leave shall not be paid?

hopehope

Another question, ignore the rule that sick leave payment is relevant with 6 days or not.

Is it correct that, if an employee receive sick leave payment from social protection department, the company then is entitled to reduce his regular monthly salary by the amount of sick leave payment from social protection department??

Thanks so much again!

The_Chap

hopehope wrote: »

Another question, ignore the rule that sick leave payment is relevant with 6 days or not.

Is it correct that, if an employee receive sick leave payment from social protection department, the company then is entitled to reduce his regular monthly salary by the amount of sick leave payment from social protection department??

Thanks so much again!

On both questions that is usually the case if the company policy is to not pay sick leave

The_Chap

In my experience though the company will deduct the sick days at the paid daily rate that the company pays, not the ssp rate

hopehope

Oh i really appreciate your quick reply and helpful information! Hugs!

Thanks so much again!

The_Chap

No problem :-)

oconnorw

The_Chap wrote:

On both questions that is usually the case if the company policy is to not pay sick leave

If the company pay the employee in full when out sick then the employee should have the amount of sick pay signed over to the organisation or alternatively pay it over to them. The amount of sick pay that the employee receives and pays to the organisation is taxable but not prsiable. It is not prsiable since the employee did not work those days.

The_Chap

oconnorw wrote: »

If the company pay the employee in full when out sick then the employee should have the amount of sick pay signed over to the organisation or alternatively pay it over to them. The amount of sick pay that the employee receives and pays to the organisation is taxable but not prsiable. It is not prsiable since the employee did not work those days.

If they pay full pay yes and the employee is out long enough to receive ssp, for 3 days however it’s not really relevant here as there is no ssp claimable

oconnorw

The_Chap wrote:

If they pay full pay yes and the employee is out long enough to receive ssp, for 3 days however it’s not really relevant here as there is no ssp claimable

Agreed

hopehope

Thanks Chap and Oconnorw !