Flying to the UK after 29th March Brexit deadline

kieran12

Hi,

Just wondering how people imagine things will pan out in the immediate aftermath of a no deal outcome on the 29th March?

I am due to fly to Manchester on the 30th. Is there any steps I should be taking or are we all in the same boat of not knowing what will happen?

ozzy jr

Bring your passport and go through the Green or Red Channel.

Other than that, I don't see much else happening.

trellheim

In the event of a No-Deal the earlier CTA will still be there. This only refers to you the person crossing a border.

It does not grant airplanes landing rights or the right to do business plus a load of other problems

In the event the agreed but not ratified Withdrawal agreement is actually ratified by the Commons this has all been already agreed as to how it will proceed

- in the event of a No-Deal - which is highly likely - none of it has been agreed in any great detail

Nijmegen

In the event of a no deal all bets are foolish at this stage, as they could already be writing up some emergency temporary regulations that will allow everyone to fly on March 30; or maybe for political reasons they're holding that back and by the time no deal becomes an unavoidable reality it's too late to have it in place bang on for Brexit day. I would err on the side of assuming that a complete stop on flights will not happen, as there are always bureaucratic ways around it where everyone is operating off a common model today and you're extending existing certs... Unless there is some sort of a political move to make an economically disruptive point by stopping flights for the Friday and weekend and getting them back going on the Monday.

arubex

In the event of No Deal, the UK airlines' rights will revert to the default set from the 1944 Chicago Convention; up to and including fifth freedom.

So Stobart ( with a UK AOC ) would still be able to fly between Southend and Dublin, but wouldn't be able to fly between Dublin and Brussels.

Conversely, unless the UK unilaterally grants rights to foreign airlines, Ryanair DAC would no longer be able to fly between London and Belfast without shunting those flights over to the Ryanair UK AOC.

It'll be a bit of a nuisance, but we managed before 1993.

L1011

Well pre 1993, Aer Lingus operated a hub of sorts at MAN - including UK domestic routes. How was that catered for I wonder.

Tenger

L1011 wrote: »

Well pre 1993, Aer Lingus operated a hub of sorts at MAN - including UK domestic routes. How was that catered for I wonder.

I guess EI had 5th freedom rights from UK. With shorter ranged aircraft I’m guessing 5th freedom rights were a lot more common in 60s/70s? Looking at older timetables multi stop journeys seemed to more common. (Almost trainlike in network)

IE 222

Could Aer Lingus be big winners out of a no deal Brexit in terms of T/A transfer traffic and been able to use the CTA. I'm guessing UK airports will see serious delays at passport control ect if no deal is reached and checks increased.