What android map app has a "quickest route" option?

the_syco

So, my issue is that Google maps uses only the shortest route, which often brings me down some boreen , as it views the distance as sligthly shorter.

So, I'm wondering if there's an android map app that has a "quickest route" option, for use whilst driving.

Hurrache

Google Maps also gives you the option of the quickest route. When there's more than one route it will show you each option, the distance and the time.

For me it will always highlight the quickest route.

Dravokivich

I tend to use Waze, because it can show the traffic flow around you.

I only use google maps, when i've searched for the location on a website and not bothered to input again on Waze.

the_syco

Hurrache wrote: »

Google Maps also gives you the option of the quickest route. When there's more than one route it will show you each option, the distance and the time.

For me it will always highlight the quickest route.

I'm going from Blanchardstown to Leixlip by the backroads (I refuse to pay two M50 tolls daily) and every day it tries its best to bring me down boreens. Yesterday, I had to pull into someones driveway, for a car coming the opposite direction to pass me by. I usually don't find out until the last moment that it's bringing me down a boreen (suddenly, the white line in the middle of the road disappears). I started back driving yesterday, and in the three journeys so far, I've been led onto a boreen every time.

Hurrache

Dravokivich wrote: »

I tend to use Waze, because it can show the traffic flow around you.

As too does Google Maps, as well as rerouting around congestion and accidents. It literally colour codes the traffic on each road around you.

Brian?

the_syco wrote: »

I'm going from Blanchardstown to Leixlip by the backroads (I refuse to pay two M50 tolls daily) and every day it tries its best to bring me down boreens. Yesterday, I had to pull into someones driveway, for a car coming the opposite direction to pass me by. I usually don't find out until the last moment that it's bringing me down a boreen (suddenly, the white line in the middle of the road disappears). I started back driving yesterday, and in the three journeys so far, I've been led onto a boreen every time.

I did that route for years. You are going the quickest way, by the sound of it. I switched to a route that took longer after I was hit head on one morning.

Your other option is to go out past Dunboyne and take the exit at the Dunboyne train station. Follow the road towards Maynooth. Up the back of Carton house. Down Kellystown lane and you're at Intel.

Hurrache

the_syco wrote: »

I'm going from Blanchardstown to Leixlip by the backroads (I refuse to pay two M50 tolls daily) and every day it tries its best to bring me down boreens.

Must be a local setting to you. I occasionally do a pretty similar route and it takes me past Leixlip and it never takes me down any boreens.

For example here's one of the routes it recommends to get from the N3 at Blanchardstown to Intel (seeing as someone mentioned it). It's the Kellystown Lane route that Brian mentions.

It also shows me 2 other routes, one of which would take me down that lane you linked to. Both are actually a shorter distance, but take a few minutes longer, so it doesn't recommend as the optimum route to take.

https://goo.gl/maps/suACMDaecT42

corks finest

the_syco wrote: »

So, my issue is that Google maps uses only the shortest route, which often brings me down some boreen , as it views the distance as sligthly shorter.

So, I'm wondering if there's an android map app that has a "quickest route" option, for use whilst driving.

No you've other options on Google

Dravokivich

Hurrache wrote: »

As too does Google Maps, as well as rerouting around congestion and accidents. It literally colour codes the traffic on each road around you.

Waze shows the direction it's in. I don't recall Google maps doing that.

Eric Cartman

the_syco wrote: »

I'm going from Blanchardstown to Leixlip by the backroads (I refuse to pay two M50 tolls daily) and every day it tries its best to bring me down boreens. Yesterday, I had to pull into someones driveway, for a car coming the opposite direction to pass me by. I usually don't find out until the last moment that it's bringing me down a boreen (suddenly, the white line in the middle of the road disappears). I started back driving yesterday, and in the three journeys so far, I've been led onto a boreen every time.

go up the back of confey gaa and go through clonee, its a little longer in time but its all wide enough to have a line down the middle of it.

the_syco

Dravokivich wrote: »

I tend to use Waze, because it can show the traffic flow around you.

I only use google maps, when i've searched for the location on a website and not bothered to input again on Waze.

Waze has an option under Navigation called "Unpaved Roads", which I've marked as "Don't Allow". No more boreens!

This mornings trip with Google Maps; https://goo.gl/maps/irHGGWoi3912 - boreen country from the M3, at zero degrees celsius is not fun.

This evenings trip with Waze; https://goo.gl/maps/7TX4YY7cpSF2
Compared with yesterdays trip with Google Maps; https://goo.gl/maps/5wusohsDX8t

I actually had to reverse back here, to let an oncoming car pass by me. I know the area, but forgot about that boreen (haven't been driving in Ireland in just over 3 years).

The plan for tomorrow will be; https://goo.gl/maps/QEokQ4ZRZoy but I use Waze in case an accident happens, so it'll let me know to avoid the M3, inwhich case I'd take this route; https://goo.gl/maps/t4BHeJYWP6M2

OldMrBrennan83

Dravokivich wrote: »

Waze shows the direction it's in. I don't recall Google maps doing that.

It does because when you navigate from somewhere to somewhere it'll know what direction you've to go in. Google Maps uses all of Wazes traffic data, that's why they bought Waze.

Dravokivich

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

It does because when you navigate from somewhere to somewhere it'll know what direction you've to go in. Google Maps uses all of Wazes traffic data, that's why they bought Waze.

I don't have to set a journey on waze. Most of the time I just have it on, without navigating.

Brian?

the_syco wrote: »

Waze has an option under Navigation called "Unpaved Roads", which I've marked as "Don't Allow". No more boreens!

This mornings trip with Google Maps; https://goo.gl/maps/irHGGWoi3912 - boreen country from the M3, at zero degrees celsius is not fun.

This evenings trip with Waze; https://goo.gl/maps/7TX4YY7cpSF2
Compared with yesterdays trip with Google Maps; https://goo.gl/maps/5wusohsDX8t

I actually had to reverse back here, to let an oncoming car pass by me. I know the area, but forgot about that boreen (haven't been driving in Ireland in just over 3 years).

The plan for tomorrow will be; https://goo.gl/maps/QEokQ4ZRZoy but I use Waze in case an accident happens, so it'll let me know to avoid the M3, inwhich case I'd take this route; https://goo.gl/maps/t4BHeJYWP6M2

Is there a reason you're not going to use the route I recommended, someone posted a link. I did that drive for years and it's the most predictable and best roads.

Brian?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

go up the back of confey gaa and go through clonee, its a little longer in time but its all wide enough to have a line down the middle of it.

That's an ok route too. Dunboyne way is quicker though.

the_syco

corks finest wrote: »

No you've other options on Google

Looking on the computer, I can see which is good, which is bad. With Google maps, if I miss a turn off to a main road, it brings me down a boreen. I think the option on Waze to ignore "unpaved roads" avoids them.

Brian? wrote: »

the_syco wrote: »

I'm going from Blanchardstown to Leixlip by the backroads (I refuse to pay two M50 tolls daily) and every day it tries its best to bring me down boreens. Yesterday, I had to pull into someones driveway, for a car coming the opposite direction to pass me by. I usually don't find out until the last moment that it's bringing me down a boreen (suddenly, the white line in the middle of the road disappears). I started back driving yesterday, and in the three journeys so far, I've been led onto a boreen every time.

I did that route for years. You are going the quickest way, by the sound of it. I switched to a route that took longer after I was hit head on one morning.

The line of sight on the boreen routes is very limited, often with blind corners on roads that won't take two cars side by side - they may be the quickest, but they're accidents waiting to happen.

Brian? wrote: »

Is there a reason you're not going to use the route I recommended, someone posted a link. I did that drive for years and it's the most predictable and best roads.

No reason; just didn't see it. If it's the route Hurrache had posted, it's a route I hope to do. I heavily dislike boreens, and want a route I can use daily.

Brian? wrote: »

Your other option is to go out past Dunboyne and take the exit at the Dunboyne train station. Follow the road towards Maynooth. Up the back of Carton house. Down Kellystown lane and you're at Intel.

Does the school in Dunboyne cause much traffic? I'd be passing by it at around sometime between 08:15 and 08:30, depending on when I leave the house.

It would be a favourable route, as it passes by shops; I sometimes like something cool to drink/eat on the way to work. I'll try it tomorrow.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

go up the back of confey gaa and go through clonee, its a little longer in time but its all wide enough to have a line down the middle of it.

I wish to avoid the village, and I those who drive 4x4's between the Kellystown lane and Confey GAA to be fuppin lunatics at the best of times, so wish to avoid that road, so will try to avoid that route.

Brian?

the_syco wrote: »

Looking on the computer, I can see which is good, which is bad. With Google maps, if I miss a turn off to a main road, it brings me down a boreen. I think the option on Waze to ignore "unpaved roads" avoids them.


The line of sight on the boreen routes is very limited, often with blind corners on roads that won't take two cars side by side - they may be the quickest, but they're accidents waiting to happen.


No reason; just didn't see it. If it's the route Hurrache had posted, it's a route I hope to do. I heavily dislike boreens, and want a route I can use daily.


Does the school in Dunboyne cause much traffic? I'd be passing by it at around sometime between 08:15 and 08:30, depending on when I leave the house.

It would be a favourable route, as it passes by shops; I sometimes like something cool to drink/eat on the way to work. I'll try it tomorrow.


I wish to avoid the village, and I those who drive 4x4's between the Kellystown lane and Confey GAA to be fuppin lunatics at the best of times, so wish to avoid that road, so will try to avoid that route.

The route I suggested doesn’t go through Dunboyne village, it goes around it. So no need to worry about the school.

This one: https://goo.gl/maps/suACMDaecT42

the_syco

Brian? wrote: »

The route I suggested doesn’t go through Dunboyne village, it goes around it. So no need to worry about the school.

This one: https://goo.gl/maps/suACMDaecT42

Ah, cool. Went via the village this morning; was no issue. Think I went through it at 08:20

Shall check your route out tomorrow.

zilog_jones

I wish there was a better way of giving feedback to these apps along the lines of "this road is awful". In Cork city you often have the problem of two-way roads that are only wide enough for one car - and neither Google Maps nor Waze are capable of identifying these. I've seen Waze try and take me down alley ways that I have no intention of driving down, for example.

One time after driving, Google Maps queried me on why I didn't take a certain road that it had suggested - I don't know what triggered this, but I haven't seen it again.

Hurrache

I'm pretty sure you can. Within the app at the end of a trip you can give feedback but I've never checked it out. There maybe ways to do so on the web version too.

OSI

OSI wrote: »

The problem is that the apps don't know what condition or type of road you are on. They just see that it has a limit of 80 or 100 or whatever and assume you'll be doing at least close to that so route you down it.

No, they don't. Google knows exactly how fast people are driving on these roads. They know traffic conditions and they know average speeds.

It's highly unlikely they know the speed limits for all roads, but the speed Android phones move at tells them it roughy.

OldMrBrennan83

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No, they don't. Google knows exactly how fast people are driving on these roads. They know traffic conditions and they know average speeds.

It's highly unlikely they know the speed limits for all roads, but the speed Android phones move at tells them it roughy.

They've speed limits for a few weeks in the US on Google Maps but God know how long before they'd have it ready to go here.

monkeybutter

Deleted User wrote: »

No, they don't. Google knows exactly how fast people are driving on these roads. They know traffic conditions and they know average speeds.

It's highly unlikely they know the speed limits for all roads, but the speed Android phones move at tells them it roughy.

I'd say they know the speed limits on all roads to be honest.

Its not a complex task, considering they have gone to the trouble of photographing them all.

They are certainly going to use it to limit the ETA. When a road is green, that's what they are going to use. It works out pretty closely to what you would guess yourself.

Brian?

zilog_jones wrote: »

I wish there was a better way of giving feedback to these apps along the lines of "this road is awful". In Cork city you often have the problem of two-way roads that are only wide enough for one car - and neither Google Maps nor Waze are capable of identifying these. I've seen Waze try and take me down alley ways that I have no intention of driving down, for example.

One time after driving, Google Maps queried me on why I didn't take a certain road that it had suggested - I don't know what triggered this, but I haven't seen it again.

I contribute a lot as a local guide, I regularly get asked to rate the directions. It’s handy

wandererz

Sygic.

It has the following options for Route Computing :
- Fastest Route
- Shortest Route
- Economic Route

It also shows: 4 nearest fuel stations, the speed limit, your speed and warns when reaching or exceeding speed limit.

You can also activate the HUD functionality at extra cost.
So leave your device on the dash & it projects the screen onto your windscreen.

It's a paid for app, but well worth it. Especially when travelling abroad.

Lord Nikon

I work up by the airport, and commute in from Kildare. I take the two tolls in the morning(M4 and M50).

However to save some money commuting home, I'll take the back roads to the old N4 road(between Kilcock and Enfield). - M50 onto the N3/M3, turning off the Dunboyne train station. Down by the back of Carton House into Kilcock.

While the traffic is less, it is so tedious. Sometimes it's just worth to pay the extra toll and take the N4/M4 getting off at Kilcock Interchange.
The traffic getting off the M50 at Blanch is a disaster, and sitting in traffic uses use the just as much fuel as the money I would save by just using the M50 toll.

GreeBo

Google Maps by far for me.

It will constantly change your route along the way if it determines a faster route, purely based on traffic.
It knows the limits for the roads as it has scanned the sights when they mapped the area, but it also knows the current speed of traffic on that road, which is how it determines congestion and fastest route.

the_syco

Brian? wrote: »

The route I suggested doesn’t go through Dunboyne village, it goes around it. So no need to worry about the school.

This one: https://goo.gl/maps/suACMDaecT42

Woke up late, so took this route. Works out fine.

Lord Nikon wrote: »

I work up by the airport, and commute in from Kildare. I take the two tolls in the morning(M4 and M50).

However to save some money commuting home, I'll take the back roads to the old N4 road(between Kilcock and Enfield). - M50 onto the N3/M3, turning off the Dunboyne train station. Down by the back of Carton House into Kilcock.

https://goo.gl/maps/h3zBFLBgXtm
The R121/N3 junction is slow going towards Kilcock, but apart from that, this would probably by a smooth journey, until you come off the R157. That doesn't have a white line, IIRC.

fletch

monkeybutter wrote: »

I'd say they know the speed limits on all roads to be honest.

Its not a complex task, considering they have gone to the trouble of photographing them all.

They are certainly going to use it to limit the ETA. When a road is green, that's what they are going to use. It works out pretty closely to what you would guess yourself.

I would say they use a complex algorithm that looks at the average speed of traffic at that time of day over a period of weeks/months/years rather than a indicated max speed (that may not be even achievable on a lot of our minor roads)

Sure you can ask Google Maps how long does it reckon it will take you to get to a destination at a certain date and time which definitely factors in traffic trends and as such I would guess, typical average speeds at that day/time