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Have we reached peak football/sports coverage?

  • 28-01-2019 7:51pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭


    Before anyone asks, I haven't done a statistical analysis on this but has the coverage of sport in the media, online, TV etc just gone totally off the Richter scale?

    Rugby, GAA, premier league, MMA, Boxing. It just seems to be wall to wall coverage. Even the radio isn't immune. How is it these adult men (mostly) spend so much time and energy on completely useless and meaningless information.
    Who the manager is, how many games away from home, what the away goal difference is, how a certain player recovers from an injury, or what makes me laugh the most is when they start talking about their football teams financial situation and which team does better financially in the transfer market. Really? How about investing the same amount of time in the stock market and make some money of your own.

    "You can, if you want, like the exact same things you liked when you were ten year old. But if you do then you need to grow up"

    Have we reach peak sports coverage? 53 votes

    Yes - there is too much coverage of sports online and in the media
    56% 30 votes
    No - there is not enough
    13% 7 votes
    Just right
    20% 11 votes
    I don't care
    9% 5 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    It is big business OP.
    I don't see coverage, saturatedness changing.

    Probably more coverage if they can manage it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭El CabaIIo


    I didn't realise you can't enjoy something if it's not making you money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    In before someone posts the Mitchell and Webb "Watch all the football" clip.............

    But yes, I agree we've definitely got a problem when it comes to sports coverage, specifically on the radio. I like Newstalk in morning/daytime but it's completely pointless every night of the week as it's Off the Ball on a fúcking loop it seems. Victorian coal miners didn't work as hard as those lads. And what's with Kevin Kilbane? Didn't he retire a millionaire premier league footballer? Why is he never off the radio? Newstalk in the evening is basically Kevin Kilbane analyzing soccer matches between english clubs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Before anyone asks, I haven't done a statistical analysis on this but has the coverage of sport in the media, online, TV etc just gone totally off the Richter scale?

    Rugby, GAA, premier league, MMA, Boxing. It just seems to be wall to wall coverage. Even the radio isn't immune. How is it these adult men (mostly) spend so much time and energy on completely useless and meaningless information.
    Who the manager is, how many games away from home, what the away goal difference is, how a certain player recovers from an injury, or what makes me laugh the most is when they start talking about their football teams financial situation and which team does better financially in the transfer market. Really? How about investing the same amount of time in the stock market and make some money of your own.

    "You can, if you want, like the exact same things you liked when you were ten year old. But if you do then you need to grow up"
    How is information on sport useless and meaningless?
    And no it hasnt really exploded in terms of coverage. Considering the money spent on transfers, wages in football of course there will be a lot of discussion about clubs financial situations. why should people have to invest their time in the stock market?
    Agricola wrote: »
    In before someone posts the Mitchell and Webb "Watch all the football" clip.............

    But yes, I agree we've definitely got a problem when it comes to sports coverage, specifically on the radio. I like Newstalk in morning/daytime but it's completely pointless every night of the week as it's Off the Ball on a fúcking loop it seems. Victorian coal miners didn't work as hard as those lads. And what's with Kevin Kilbane? Didn't he retire a millionaire premier league footballer? Why is he never off the radio? Newstalk in the evening is basically Kevin Kilbane analyzing soccer matches between english clubs.
    Off the Ball is on for the time its on because the market exists for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola



    Off the Ball is on for the time its on because the market exists for it.

    Thanks for the keen business insight. I realize that, but it doesn't make it any less tiresome.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    With streaming sites and recording stuff I want to watch on TV, I don’t really care how much sport is on telly. It’s really easy to avoid. And the people who enjoy it can watch as much as they want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I dont like when they try and portray mediocre sports events or athletes as equal in quality as the prestige competitions or athletes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Agricola wrote: »
    Thanks for the keen business insight. I realize that, but it doesn't make it any less tiresome.
    So what do you want then.
    There's enough music shows, current affairs etc on the radio. Off the Ball and Game On are about only sports orientated radio shows on mid week on main stations.
    and most live sport is weekends so what do you want to change?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Ad they say, turn the dial (or press a different button).

    For me there's always too little of sports I want to be on and too much of sports I don't want to be on. I've realised I can just switch off the latter though so that solves one problem.

    Don't like Off the Ball? Switch over to Nova or whatever else floats the boat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    so what do you want to change?

    Variety in scheduling in a certain timeslot would be nice. This is from the Off the Ball website;

    Off The Ball: Monday to Thursday from 7pm - 10pm, Fridays from 7pm - 9pm, Saturdays from 1pm - 6pm and Sundays from 1pm - 6pm.

    Imo that's a bit ridiculous. 4 nights a week on that station during primetime hours its sport analysis, slightly shorter on Friday. And then 10 hours of it over the weekend. I have no truck with the weekend coverage as that is when the matches are on, but why have it every night of the week as well.

    Newstalk have some good shows, Talking History for example which gets one hour a week, down from two I believe. One hour versus 24 hours of Off The Ball a week. That's mad. Could you imagine if TV3 had three hours of sports analysis every night between 7 and 10!

    Why not break up the evening scheduling a bit with an hour of non sport content? I know the answer to that is because ad money and listener figures and as a private station they obviously can do what they like but it's a crazy amount of coverage when you see the numbers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,416 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Your Face wrote: »
    I dont like when they try and portray mediocre sports events or athletes as equal in quality as the prestige competitions or athletes.

    You just pulled the pin on the grenade. I’ll take the shrapnel for you...women’s sport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Agricola wrote: »
    Variety in scheduling in a certain timeslot would be nice. This is from the Off the Ball website;

    Off The Ball: Monday to Thursday from 7pm - 10pm, Fridays from 7pm - 9pm, Saturdays from 1pm - 6pm and Sundays from 1pm - 6pm.

    Imo that's a bit ridiculous. 4 nights a week on that station during primetime hours its sport analysis, slightly shorter on Friday. And then 10 hours of it over the weekend. I have no truck with the weekend coverage as that is when the matches are on, but why have it every night of the week as well.

    Newstalk have some good shows, Talking History for example which gets one hour a week, down from two I believe. One hour versus 24 hours of Off The Ball a week. That's mad. Could you imagine if TV3 had three hours of sports analysis every night between 7 and 10!

    Why not break up the evening scheduling a bit with an hour of non sport content? I know the answer to that is because ad money and listener figures and as a private station they obviously can do what they like but it's a crazy amount of coverage when you see the numbers.
    They do it because there is a demand for it. I dont see why they should break it up for non sports content when thats already available on multiple other stations in the same time slot.
    How many stations have huge variety in a time slot? Its the same programme pretty much year round in same slot for good reason...
    Sport isnt limited to the weekend. There is games, training sessions and potential injuries etc from them. Transfer, fixtures news all week.
    Its not that crazy really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭orourkeda1977


    We've reached peak coverage of the same small number of teams shown religiously every or at least most weekends.

    Liverpool, man utd, man city, chelsea or tittingham twotspur. THATS IT

    When you support a club that isnt one of these it gets tiresome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,873 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Peaked?

    Peaked, Tickers?

    Let me tell you something it hasn't even begun to peak... and when it does peak... you'll know... because it's going to peak so hard that everyone in After Hours is going to feel it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    You see lads going absolutely ballistic about football now and all the trivia. The top five Italian strikers and all that ****e. My young lad is twenty three and he spends the whole weekend down in the pub watching the matches and throws a fortune away on pints and those gambling sites. Back when I was his age I'd watch one game a weekend and forget about it, not skulling poison like him or his loser friends and throwing my money down the toilet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    The worst about it living in Ireland is that we don't just have British/international soccer but we have GAA as well and Irish soccer, then rugby. At least in the UK it's just soccer and rugby. Ok, they have cricket too. I don't think the British media focus on rugby as much as we do here either. And just today I saw there is now a womens version of some team sport, I don't recall which one. As if we needed another variation to add to the oversaturated topic.

    Whatever about the actual sports coverage which one can choose not to watch it's hard to avoid sports news if one is inclined to on a daily basis keep up with the general news.

    It's the surnames that get on my tits. I know of multiple players/managers when I haven't the slightest interest in team sports. Also place name appropriation. The first thing that springs to mind when you hear say Leinster in the media - is rugby.

    One thing of some amusement is the utterly banal regurgitated claptrap you hear in RTE news reports from some local team. "We know we have to up our game but we've been training hard this last year but we'll be putting our heart and soul into it we hope our efforts will pay off", for example. Yeah, heard it all before. Yawn. Really worthwhile of RTE to send a reporting team down there to record that.

    And have you noticed every other TV advert can't wait to do the emotional side of team sports. Dreary nobodies talking about their efforts in team sports as if there were noting better one could do in life than represent you county/nation. Of course it's adverting that drives all this perpetual over-hyped banality.

    What is most ironic is that RTE and general Irish media talk about us as if we're a nation of sports lovers. We are not a nation of sports lovers, we're a nation of needy patriotic affirming thrill seekers where most are actually armchair observers to achieve this aim who never played a sport in their lives and are as unfit as fck.

    What is most wrong with all this is that we put sports stars on a pedestal, talk about how amazing they are, and this in my views has the negative effect of telling ppl that they can't engage in sport unless your somehow superhuman. It's no wonder we have an obesity problem when ppl sit in front of the TV to feel good about themselves for their supported teams achievements, which are only fleeting feel good emotions that will be forgotten as quick as it takes to change the channel.

    Edit: Interesting to see in the news today what soccer supporting is all about - base tribalism. Noting better than a good punch up at a soccer match.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    I blame the wives of Ireland.

    Obviously can’t keep their men happy and occupied.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    The problem for the big sports is that they have tied themselves to the pay TV money and spent accordingly. The problem for a lot of people is that pay TV is now too expensive so use other means to watch.

    This means that the big sports have spent billions on players wages while the subscription model is going to fail soon and they have no backup plan, apart from try to charge to watch using other subscriptions methods which don't work as anyone who has watched live streaming with different devices in the same location will know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭PingTing comes for Fire


    Young kids down the park. Isn't it. Jumpers for goal posts. Marvelous. Ones gone home for tea.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,844 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    Day 1 of the blah blah open, after 3 holes it’s blah blah best of the Irish....after every frickin bulletin for 4 days...does anyone care that much


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭QuintusFabius


    I don't like the way betting is always discussed along with matches, even commentators are talking about odds during the game, that shyte should be regulated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    I don't like the way betting is always discussed along with matches, even commentators are talking about odds during the game, that shyte should be regulated.

    It’s a ****ing disgrace. The amount of times my son has come up to me with his hand out after spunking a fortune on them matches would turn your ****e white.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    It’s a ****ing disgrace. The amount of times my son has come up to me with his hand out after spunking a fortune on them matches would turn your ****e white.

    Don't give it to him and he'll soon stop looking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    Don't give it to him and he'll soon stop looking.

    Don’t you tell me how to raise my family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    AllForIt wrote: »
    The worst about it living in Ireland is that we don't just have British/international soccer but we have GAA as well and Irish soccer, then rugby. At least in the UK it's just soccer and rugby. Ok, they have cricket too. I don't think the British media focus on rugby as much as we do here either. And just today I saw there is now a womens version of some team sport, I don't recall which one. As if we needed another variation to add to the oversaturated topic.

    Whatever about the actual sports coverage which one can choose not to watch it's hard to avoid sports news if one is inclined to on a daily basis keep up with the general news.
    Its far from just soccer/rugby/cricket in the UK.
    And why shouldnt we have multiple sports covered in the media.
    Rugby is the biggest pro team sport in the country. Soccer coverage here is primarily the english league.
    British media doesnt necessarily cover rugby union as much as here because of market that exists.
    I dont see by what metric you can say the area is oversaturated. Its still easy enough to avoid sports news if you want to. Just change channel when it comes on.....
    It's the surnames that get on my tits. I know of multiple players/managers when I haven't the slightest interest in team sports. Also place name appropriation. The first thing that springs to mind when you hear say Leinster in the media - is rugby.

    One thing of some amusement is the utterly banal regurgitated claptrap you hear in RTE news reports from some local team. "We know we have to up our game but we've been training hard this last year but we'll be putting our heart and soul into it we hope our efforts will pay off", for example. Yeah, heard it all before. Yawn. Really worthwhile of RTE to send a reporting team down there to record that.
    What are you expecting the people from these "local team" to say other than cliches etc? It can be similar enough in anything else in any number of areas/disciplines beyond sport.
    What is most ironic is that RTE and general Irish media talk about us as if we're a nation of sports lovers. We are not a nation of sports lovers, we're a nation of needy patriotic affirming thrill seekers where most are actually armchair observers to achieve this aim who never played a sport in their lives and are as unfit as fck.

    What is most wrong with all this is that we put sports stars on a pedestal, talk about how amazing they are, and this in my views has the negative effect of telling ppl that they can't engage in sport unless your somehow superhuman. It's no wonder we have an obesity problem when ppl sit in front of the TV to feel good about themselves for their supported teams achievements, which are only fleeting feel good emotions that will be forgotten as quick as it takes to change the channel.

    Edit: Interesting to see in the news today what soccer supporting is all about - base tribalism. Noting better than a good punch up at a soccer match.
    Numbers involved in some form or another in sports/sports clubs etc shows sport is highly important to us....
    I dont see that impression being built at all and you can see thats false by way playing numbers in rugby for example have grown hugely at underage level in particular since the provinces and national team improved significantly from 2000 or so on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Its far from just soccer/rugby/cricket in the UK.
    And why shouldnt we have multiple sports covered in the media.
    Rugby is the biggest pro team sport in the country. Soccer coverage here is primarily the english league.
    British media doesnt necessarily cover rugby union as much as here because of market that exists.
    I dont see by what metric you can say the area is oversaturated. Its still easy enough to avoid sports news if you want to. Just change channel when it comes on.....
    What are you expecting the people from these "local team" to say other than cliches etc? It can be similar enough in anything else in any number of areas/disciplines beyond sport.

    Numbers involved in some form or another in sports/sports clubs etc shows sport is highly important to us....
    I dont see that impression being built at all and you can see thats false by way playing numbers in rugby for example have grown hugely at underage level in particular since the provinces and national team improved significantly from 2000 or so on.

    Yes but Irish people who support rugby are effectively British anyway - same difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Yes but Irish people who support rugby are effectively British anyway - same difference.
    How will this effect my Irish citizenship status once Brexit kicks in?

    Will I have to be shot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    Still rather have 24/7 sports coverage than god awful soap operas that aren’t real & reality tv like love island & the Charlotte show! (& saying that I’ve no interest in the rugby & mcgregor is a ****!)


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