NCT - tyres

obi604

If your tyres fail the NCT due to low thread, is the re test a visual or does it have go through the full test again and pay 28 euro etc?

Toyotafanboi

Tyre fails are only a visual re-inspection with no booking needed. Tyres below the legal limit (NCT fail threshold) are now a "fail dangerous" item and you will be advised not to drive your car away from the test center. I'm not sure how rigidly enforced it is, but it could happen.

Johnny Red Cab

They get pretty arsey if your tyres are over 6 years old.

obi604

Johnny Red Cab wrote: »

They get pretty arsey if your tyres are over 6 years old.

Ok. But even still. Anything to do with tyre depth or age is just a visual, yeah?

Johnny Red Cab

Yes.

Pops_20

Johnny Red Cab wrote: »

They get pretty arsey if your tyres are over 6 years old.

They will list this as an advisory on the sheet, but I've never experienced them getting "arsey" with me for my 6+ year old tyres.

Gen.Zhukov

Quick question re the advisory on tyres.
If you're given an advisory re the age of the tyres and told "there's loads of thread on them but he has to give the advisory", what happens the next NCT if you have the same tyres (still with loads of meat on them) Is it just another advisory?

Johnny Red Cab

Yes. It just continues on as an advisory.

I had a narky tester saying he wished he could have failed them for the age.

Renegade Mechanic

Lol, lads, try sticking it to the road with 6/7 year old tyres with a good 5mm of thread. Or driving anywhere in a hurry. You'll wish you had 2nd hand tyres with 3mm.... The cheapest Chinese remoulds are better than old tyres.

If I had my way, it'd be a visual fail four years from the tyre's dot code..

Aged tyres are a pain in the hole. They're worse than worn tyres in every aspect outside of water dispersal.
The tyre hardens, making it conform less to the surface and undoing any advantages it's remaining siping might've had over a worn tyre come dodgy or cold conditions.
The harder tyre will also blow out more quickly during low pressure driving.

Oh the world is blessed I can't get into the NCT and be the uptight little bollix I aspire to be...

jimgoose

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

...Oh the world is blessed I can't get into the NCT and be the uptight little bollix I aspire to be...

Reggie, every day you inspire me to new heights of automotive nerditude. :cool:

9935452

Pops_20 wrote: »

They will list this as an advisory on the sheet, but I've never experienced them getting "arsey" with me for my 6+ year old tyres.

I had a set of tyres on the car that were 8 years old but had never been on the car before so effectively were brand new.

Because they looked brand new they never checked the date on them and wasnt listed on the nct advisory sheet

obi604

What is an NCT “pass advisory”

rex-x

obi604 wrote: »

What is an NCT “pass advisory”

It means you passed but really need to give that item some attention in the near future

dan1895

Brought my car with 8 year old tyres into tyreland during the week and I was told there's nothing wrong with them.

punisher5112

obi604 wrote: »

What is an NCT “pass advisory”

They tell you something is old or worn and may well need changing at some point in the near future.

Tyre age, thread dept getting low but still legal.

People tend to just do things when they're broken and with tyres I see most don't even check pressure.

Many driving around on slicks too.

punisher5112

dan1895 wrote: »

Brought my car with 8 year old tyres into tyreland during the week and I was told there's nothing wrong with them.

They can crack and the rubber becomes perished and gives less grip.

They may well have plenty of thread but they do only have a certain life span.

Mundo7976

Then tyre fitters shouldnt legally be allowed supply/fit them if they’re an nct issue

punisher5112

Mundo7976 wrote: »

Then tyre fitters shouldnt legally be allowed supply/fit them if they’re an nct issue

Do you mean part worn?

If they have the legal thread dept then it's deemed ok.

It can be a bit hit and miss.

These tyres aren't examined to see were they abused or cracking etc.

Mundo7976

punisher5112 wrote: »

Do you mean part worn?

If they have the legal thread dept then it's deemed ok.

It can be a bit hit and miss.

These tyres aren't examined to see were they abused or cracking etc.

Nope, never used tyres. Happened me recently, got the advisory on the nct sheet, explained tyres were only a few months old to me, tester shrugged said not to worry about it!

damon5

Over the years have had a pass advisory to replace the front and rear tires because of the age even though they had great meat on them,find it odd though then that nothing has ever been said regarding the age,condition of the spare wheel .....

slave1

My car in for service during the week, still has original rears on and it's a 132, asked them to have a look at them and they said they were perfectly fine, I replaced the fronts last week

dan1895

punisher5112 wrote: »

They can crack and the rubber becomes perished and gives less grip.

They may well have plenty of thread but they do only have a certain life span.

I know that which is why I offered someone money for new ones but he said there was nothing wrong with what's on it.

elperello

dan1895 wrote: »

Brought my car with 8 year old tyres into tyreland during the week and I was told there's nothing wrong with them.

If the car is garaged ie. out of the light, then they should be ok.

dan1895

elperello wrote: »

If the car is garaged ie. out of the light, then they should be ok.

No but when parked up would only be in direct sunlight for an hour or two in the morning during the summer and I don't do much mileage to be fair.

elperello

I'd take the word of the man in the trade who examined the tyres and say you are ok.

punisher5112

dan1895 wrote: »

I know that which is why I offered someone money for new ones but he said there was nothing wrong with what's on it.

Nice honest place but still no matter what they will deteriorate over time use or no use.

kerten

Cracks are not the only sign of an old tyre with deteriorated grip. Some rubber gets stone hard without any visible cracking and visual inspection can't say how much it got harder from original state. Only sign of this is tyre losing grip much earlier than before(spinning wheels in wet/hills, or unstable front or rear in a roundabout/bend when pushed, etc)

What I described above may happen even with tyres without age problem.Once I bought 4 Michelin Primacy HP tyres with close production date(3-4 moths max). They got stone hard after wearing first1-1.5 mm after 10000 km. They didn't get worn at all in next 15000 km. Lower grip became obvious and road noise was increased. It could be a bad batch or not but it is something drivers should be keeping an eye on when it come to tyres.

obi604

Hi

I passed my NCT yesterday. I see the printout at the top says:

“NCT Report: PASS ADVISORY”


Presume this means, you passed but we are giving you some advise. The advise is:

“Depth of thread less than 3.0mm”

I have the valid disk now until March 2020, which to me means the car is road worthy until then.
But, Does the above advise mean that if I were stoppped by guards etc I could have issues or issues with insurance, as I was given an advisory.

elperello

No issues except you will need to change the tyres when tread depth is 1.6mm.

Anjobe

obi604 wrote: »

I have the valid disk now until March 2020, which to me means the car is road worthy until then.

No, it just means your car was road worthy while it was being tested, nothing more.

elperello wrote: »

No issues except you will need to change the tyres when tread depth is 1.6mm.

Legal limit is 1.6mm but best practice now is to change tyres at 3mm, hence the advisory. Tyres are generally wider now than when the 1.6mm limit was set, and their ability to clear water drops off sharply when the tread depth is less than 3mm.

elperello

Anjobe wrote: »

No, it just means your car was road worthy while it was being tested, nothing more.



Legal limit is 1.6mm but best practice now is to change tyres at 3mm, hence the advisory. Tyres are generally wider now than when the 1.6mm limit was set, and their ability to clear water drops off sharply when the tread depth is less than 3mm.

Yes you can't be too careful with tyres.

damon5

damon5 wrote: »

Over the years have had a pass advisory to replace the front and rear tires because of the age even though they had great meat on them,find it odd though then that nothing has ever been said regarding the age,condition of the spare wheel .....

This is interesting! My spare tyre has been sitting idle in its position in the boot of my car for almost 8 years. Never been used since I bought the car new. Should I have it replaced purely because of age?

punisher5112

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is interesting! My spare tyre has been sitting idle in its position in the boot of my car for almost 8 years. Never been used since I bought the car new. Should I have it replaced purely because of age?

A spare is sort of different in a way as you wouldn't leave it on. 80km/h top speed and only to be used to get you to get the correct tyre back on.

grogi

Johnny Red Cab wrote: »

They get pretty arsey if your tyres are over 6 years old.

There is absolutely no reason why you'd drive on tyres that old. Tyres last on average 30kkm, that's 5kkm per year.

grogi

obi604 wrote: »

I have the valid disk now until March 2020, which to me means the car is road worthy until then.
But, Does the above advise mean that if I were stoppped by guards etc I could have issues or issues with insurance, as I was given an advisory.

Nonsense. It means that it was roadworthy on the day of the test and you don't have to bring it to the test until March 2020.

No test will guarantee roadworthiness in future. Nor will a Guarda look at the date of your test if the tyres are bald.

9935452

grogi wrote: »

Johnny Red Cab wrote: »

They get pretty arsey if your tyres are over 6 years old.

There is absolutely no reason why you'd drive on tyres that old. Tyres last on average 30kkm, that's 5kkm per year.

I got 58k miles out of a set of tyres at one stage. Tracking camber etc were perfect.
Tyres were firestone firehawks

damon5

punisher5112 wrote: »

A spare is sort of different in a way as you wouldn't leave it on. 80km/h top speed and only to be used to get you to get the correct tyre back on.

Is,nt that the top speed for a space saver wheel that your refering to and not a full size tyre spare ?