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Guinness

  • 27-01-2019 10:51am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,490 ✭✭✭


    I am not a huge drinker but do like the odd pint of Guinness when out. I haven’t been out in a few months so was only having the odd beer/cider at home.
    Was out last night and had a few pints of Guinness in two different pubs , pubs that always had a good pint. The taste and temperature of the pints seemed different a lot lighter in taste and a lot colder than I have had previous.
    Bar man said temps and lines are set up and maintained by Diageo themselves.
    Anyone else notice this or are my taste buds ****ed ?


Comments

  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,837 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    If you've been drinking craft beer your tastes may have shifted to now prefer stronger flavoured beers and thus the likes of Guinness will taste lighter.

    If you are a complete cynic like me you might believe that Diageo is slowly changing the Guinness recipe to make it lighter and colder in an attempt to align itself with the macro lagers and make the beer more palatable to the likes of a Heineken or Coors Light drinker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,914 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Think there were a lot of chat on this recently...
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057941340

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,490 ✭✭✭harr


    irish_goat wrote: »
    If you've been drinking craft beer your tastes may have shifted to now prefer stronger flavoured beers and thus the likes of Guinness will taste lighter.

    If you are a complete cynic like me you might believe that Diageo is slowly changing the Guinness recipe to make it lighter and colder in an attempt to align itself with the macro lagers and make the beer more palatable to the likes of a Heineken or Coors Light drinker.

    This is what I had in my head ... it definitely seems lighter and colder but I taught I was being stupid. And yes maybe it’s the fact I am now drinking more craft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    irish_goat wrote: »
    If you are a complete cynic like me you might believe that Diageo is slowly changing the Guinness recipe to make it lighter and colder
    +1, years ago I constantly heard about guinness being "an acquired taste", I very rarely hear this anymore. When I was just starting drinking ~25 years ago I remember people asking for tastes of guinness and often recoiling in disgust, lads and especially women.

    Roll on a couple of decades and I remember "arthurs day" where some pubs were very limited so many people chose guinness. Rakes of women in their early 20s lashing down pints and not a grimace in sight.

    I remember being in the porterhouse drinking one of their stouts and we were heading off in a rush, my mate saying "lash that down and come on", and I went to do it but could not, was saying "its not like its a guinness you know."


  • Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    harr wrote: »
    ....pubs that always had a good pint....

    Careful now, there are posters here would have you believe there's no such thing as a good (or bad) pint, they're all identical and any difference you notice is all psychosomatic.

    :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    rubadub wrote: »
    +1, years ago I constantly heard about guinness being "an acquired taste", I very rarely hear this anymore. When I was just starting drinking ~25 years ago I remember people asking for tastes of guinness and often recoiling in disgust, lads and especially women.

    Roll on a couple of decades and I remember "arthurs day" where some pubs were very limited so many people chose guinness. Rakes of women in their early 20s lashing down pints and not a grimace in sight.

    I remember being in the porterhouse drinking one of their stouts and we were heading off in a rush, my mate saying "lash that down and come on", and I went to do it but could not, was saying "its not like its a guinness you know."

    They stopped using the isinglass brewing method a few years back.

    I'd say this has impacted on the taste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,374 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    rubadub wrote:
    +1, years ago I constantly heard about guinness being "an acquired taste", I very rarely hear this anymore. When I was just starting drinking ~25 years ago I remember people asking for tastes of guinness and often recoiling in disgust, lads and especially women.


    Same as that. First tasted down the country and was awful. Then I visited Dublin and it was really nice there, totally different.

    But I heard several times that Guinness started to implement the programme of sending people around to every pub to sort out issues and the quality became more consistent.

    Ironically is not as nice now as that time I visited Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,386 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Get a can or bottle of Guinness Extra Stout if you want to taste anything.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    I think a lot of people that say the acquired taste thing are generally people that were drinking it before or in the 80s. I started drinking it in the late 80s and I have been told by others that from the mid 80s onwards, they started using extract for some of the ingredients (sure some of the experts here can confirm this) and this - in combination with lowering the serving temperature (which will deaden the taste of stout as well) - gradually made it taste less and less like stout and allowed it to compete with colder, more fashionable drinks popular with young drinkers with less of a strong taste like macro lagers. My dad definitely claims that it's a really different stout these days.

    Even anecdotally, I'm sure that a regular Guinness drinker would immediately see a large difference between Guinness and tasting a readily available stout like Leann Follain, Wrasslers or further up the ABV/taste scale, Guinness Foreign Exta Stout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭beardybrewer


    Weather it has a lighter body or not is debatable but temperature alone has a massive impact. I hate those ice cold taps but they're a great way to hide a bad pint. If you're going slow hold it in your hands and as it warms up the flavour will open up. If it still tasted good close to room temp then you've found a good pint.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Cold is what's good to me. The main difference between a good pint and bad, unless it's a complete sour one altogether.


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