2010 Laguna. Electronic handbrake won't release

chuck eastwood

So about 4.30 today my wife rang saying her 1.5 dci 2010 Laguna wouldn't budge. Panic stations as she had to collect the kids.
I flew home from work leaving behind one pissed boss to find when I release the brake switch and try move the car the brake is still on, I had to come back to work and it will be Saturday before I get a chance to look at it. Has anyone any ideas what could cause this

Guy:Incognito

I assume the Laguna has an emergency release handle in the boot like the scenic has? I'd check for that.

Does the car think the handbrake is released? Could well be a case of the brakes binding and not releasing . Happens on cars all the time.

chuck eastwood

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I assume the Laguna has an emergency release handle in the boot like the scenic has? I'd check for that.

Does the car think the handbrake is released? Could well be a case of the brakes binding and not releasing . Happens on cars all the time.

I only had a few mins to look but the release if there is one isn't in the boot. It might be located elsewhere but I'll have a better look tomorrow. The car thinks the brake had disengaged as the light on the switch goes off. In gear and giving it as much force as I dare in first gear, it's not a case of the binding brakes with rust. Its definetly mechanically engaged but again I'll jack it tomorrow and look

johnayo

Could well be a seized calipers or faulty motor. It might be worth disconnecting the battery for a few minutes and see would it reset. That used to work on the earlier models.

chuck eastwood

johnayo wrote: »

Could well be a seized calipers or faulty motor. It might be worth disconnecting the battery for a few minutes and see would it reset. That used to work on the earlier models.

Put it up on stands before coming into work. Quick look and I could see the cable moving freely but the disc and pads are in an awful state. Quick conversation with herself, she was told there was another 10,000 on the discs at the last service 🙄 . I've new discs and pads ordered and I'll try force back the seized caliper tomorrow. Just have to borrow a 36mm socket to get the disc off. At least it's not an expensive electrical issue.that said the cheapest discs are €110 each

w211

There was cheaper options too. Example the bosch ones cost around 45EUR each. Yes it needs the VIN code to match the parts.

chuck eastwood

w211 wrote: »

There was cheaper options too. Example the bosch ones cost around 45EUR each. Yes it needs the VIN code to match the parts.

€45, maybe for a different model of car but this has a bearing in the disc itself. Different beast that your standard disc. I checked the usual online spots plus Halfords and 3 local places where one agreed to give me a full set of rear discs and pads for €240. The best nearest to thar was €285 and 5 day delivery

w211

chuck eastwood wrote: »

€45, maybe for a different model of car but this has a bearing in the disc itself. Different beast that your standard disc. I checked the usual online spots plus Halfords and 3 local places where one agreed to give me a full set of rear discs and pads for €240. The best nearest to thar was €285 and 5 day delivery

True, without vin code can not match the right one, but that one had the bearings included. Always search by vin code because the car year, model, make or engine does not mean anything.

chuck eastwood

w211 wrote: »

True, without vin code can not match the right one, but that one had the bearings included. Always search by vin code because the car year, model, make or engine does not mean anything.

? Of course you can get the right parts with the reg. I've only ever used the reg for the last 5 cars we had and only once was the wrong cabin filter supplied. No parts supplier has ever asked me for the VIN for basic service parts or timing belts on a passat/golf and focus. If the supplier has trouble finding the right part then the VIN might help but generally it isn't needed

w211

chuck eastwood wrote: »

? Of course you can get the right parts with the reg. I've only ever used the reg for the last 5 cars we had and only once was the wrong cabin filter supplied. No parts supplier has ever asked me for the VIN for basic service parts or timing belts on a passat/golf and focus. If the supplier has trouble finding the right part then the VIN might help but generally it isn't needed

The registration number are useless. Only the VIN code helps to find the rights parts from the manufacturer catalogue. Yes there is too several variations but remarks helps to locate the right one. Without the proper research your car can be entire week on the service, because they can not find the right part and need to wait delivery, compare the parts and so on. The same year car can have over 10 different article numbers for the same part!!! Sometimes even more article numbers, all slightly different or upgraded versions. I am sure you even can not name all the extras what was installed to your car on the factory. The catalogue knows almost everything.

chuck eastwood

w211 wrote: »

The registration number are useless. Only the VIN code helps to find the rights parts from the manufacturer catalogue. Yes there is too several variations but remarks helps to locate the right one. Without the proper research your car can be entire week on the service, because they can not find the right part and need to wait delivery, compare the parts and so on. The same year car can have over 10 different article numbers for the same part!!! Sometimes even more article numbers, all slightly different or upgraded versions. I am sure you even can not name all the extras what was installed to your car on the factory. The catalogue knows almost everything.

While I'm sure the VIN will give a full list is simply isn't needed in most cases. If so why would the two biggest online parts suppliers in Europe use reg instead of VIN. In the photo attached is the list of ordered from micksgarage, 29 parts in all those orders from abs sensors to electric mirrors. Brake hoses to heater plugs. Every single order was correct. I've bought two timing belt kits from sheehy motors passat/golf. Both kits were correct. All just using the reg. Are you saying I'm imagining they gave me the right parts ?

dieselbug

When your supplier inputs the reg to his system all of the cars details will come up, including the VIN

chuck eastwood

dieselbug wrote: »

When your supplier inputs the reg to his system all of the cars details will come up, including the VIN

So if that happens then why would I have to give him the VIN if it comes up automatically?. So you are agreeing with me then in saying by just giving him the reg he will have enough info to do the rest.

SweetCaliber

chuck eastwood wrote: »

So if that happens then why would I have to give him the VIN if it comes up automatically?. So you are agreeing with me then in saying by just giving him the reg he will have enough info to do the rest.

I can imagine not all suppliers will have access to VIN from reg.

However the garage I worked in (Main dealer), when you inputted the reg all it did was show the VIN, you had to copy the VIN in the parts catalog to get the correct parts.

chuck eastwood

SweetCaliber wrote: »

I can imagine not all suppliers will have access to VIN from reg.

However the garage I worked in (Main dealer), when you inputted the reg all it did was show the VIN, you had to copy the VIN in the parts catalog to get the correct parts.

Oh yeah I know that, the vin is certainly helpful. I just had to disagree with
W211 who stated that reg numbers are useless when ordering parts. He should probably tell every main dealer that because in 20 years of servicing my own and the wife's car I have never been asked for the VIN and only recived one wrong filter from a kid in Halfords. As I was trying to explain to w211, if the parts store or dealer can get the VIN from the reg then why would I need to supply the VIN

w211

chuck eastwood wrote: »

Oh yeah I know that, the vin is certainly helpful. I just had to disagree with
W211 who stated that reg numbers are useless when ordering parts. He should probably tell every main dealer that because in 20 years of servicing my own and the wife's car I have never been asked for the VIN and only recived one wrong filter from a kid in Halfords. As I was trying to explain to w211, if the parts store or dealer can get the VIN from the reg then why would I need to supply the VIN

The Germany or other countries does not know anything about Irish car registration numbers. So it is 100% useless for these catalogues. And trust me, they have a more advance catalogues than local market ones

chuck eastwood

w211 wrote: »

The Germany or other countries does not know anything about Irish car registration numbers. So it is 100% useless for these catalogues. And trust me, they have a more advance catalogues than local market ones

So how did my local spare supplier, German Swedish. Finleys Ford. Sheehys vw/bmw/Merc micks garage and Euro parts get me the correct parts every single time with no VIN and only reg ?

w211

chuck eastwood wrote: »

So how did my local spare supplier, German Swedish. Finleys Ford. Sheehys vw/bmw/Merc micks garage and Euro parts get me the correct parts every single time with no VIN and only reg ?

The registration number are for only local business who can access to local car registration database. The car manufacturer have no such information, they have only vin number. Yes the local supplier get the vin number from the local database and they process your order.



I use only vin number to order the parts because I have access more advanced database what mick garage/euro parts can only dream of. If your car are produced middle of production period then you have no problems. Try to order the parts for car what was produced on the first year of the production. Then you see the nightmare, because the mic and euro does not know anything about these parts. Especially difficult are to trace all replaced parts. Yes every single car have a replaced parts, what was produced on various stages on production. Sure they discovered the weakness or what ever on the part and made a replacement. On some cases it fits perfectly but usually there are tons of remarks. Mick or euro even does not know what is replaced version and what is remarks.

Euro parts are completely out from the ... because they do not know even simplest thing as oem reference number, the cross references numbers are only dream. Ok the last part is not completely necessary if you do not have a warehouse by millions different parts. Sorry if too many errors on text, late hour....

Pkiernan

Stop going on about VIN numbers please.

OP...what was the root cause of the problem? Was it rusted or seized pads/disks?