Isolated farm building security camera's

Asus1

Hi just wondering what security camera's people are using on sheds that are a bit isolated and can't be hard wired for cctv because of distance.Was looking for advice as a shed of ours has been broken into a few times.Was looking at buying a 4g router and a couple of wireless camera's that can be accessed via an app.Has anyone done this and could you recommend what camera's you use and maybe your experience of this system,good,bad or indifferent.Thanks.

_Brian

It’s grand if your robbed during the day, but at night without security lighting the footage is of minimal use.

Infra red reflects on number plates and they are impossible to read.

Perhaps as a deterrent.

Asus1

_Brian wrote: »

It’s grand if your robbed during the day, but at night without security lighting the footage is of minimal use.

Infra red reflects on number plates and they are impossible to read.

Perhaps as a deterrent.

Yeah have a few old lights up outside,have a 100 watt led and a 50 I have to put up both running off a main sensor

Markcheese

A few dummy cameras up high as a deterent, a good few solar powered security lights... And then real cameras hidden, at a height that'll pick up faces, either linked via a cheapo mobile, or a 4 g router... And good locks, high fences and gates...

listermint

Get a 4G router, a 3 all you can eat sim card. Buy a CCTV system something like 'Annke' from Amazon . Try keep to the over 1080P versions not 720 as the quality is not as good.

Then install some IR sensitive lights also to illuminate the area.

Install would be simple enough, just power and running video cables. You can setup alerts with the Annke box to your email account and login to it remotely using an app to view live feed.

Not huge money for the whole thing.

markad1

_Brian wrote: »

It’s grand if your robbed during the day, but at night without security lighting the footage is of minimal use.

Infra red reflects on number plates and they are impossible to read.

Perhaps as a deterrent.

Depends on the system

Timmaay

Asus1 wrote: »

Hi just wondering what security camera's people are using on sheds that are a bit isolated and can't be hard wired for cctv because of distance.Was looking for advice as a shed of ours has been broken into a few times.Was looking at buying a 4g router and a couple of wireless camera's that can be accessed via an app.Has anyone done this and could you recommend what camera's you use and maybe your experience of this system,good,bad or indifferent.Thanks.

What do you mean by can't be hard wired because of distance, as in there isn't power available? If it's just for security do you need a live feed to your phone etc, can you not just use a normal cctv dvr with a hard drive that records like 2 wks footage, and a monitor to watch the playback.

Asus1

Timmaay wrote: »

What do you mean by can't be hard wired because of distance, as in there isn't power available? If it's just for security do you need a live feed to your phone etc, can you not just use a normal cctv dvr with a hard drive that records like 2 wks footage, and a monitor to watch the playback.

No there is power to shed but need a system that would alert me or someone else if anything trips camera so was thinking of router and wireless with app.The problem with setting up to record is I assume they would probably find said recorder and take it.Also as shed is a few minutes down the road I wouldn't mind actually preventing or catching people in the act.

amber2

Bought this from advice received on the home security forum, only delivered today so haven’t installed yet but it may be worth a look.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/YI-Wireless-Weatherproof-Surveillance-Detection-H30/dp/B0776V3CG5

Alternatively these guys do a Hikvision IP PTZ Camera on 3G Network.
CCTV-DIRECT.IE

alta stare

Asus1 wrote: »

No there is power to shed but need a system that would alert me or someone else if anything trips camera so was thinking of router and wireless with app.The problem with setting up to record is I assume they would probably find said recorder and take it.Also as shed is a few minutes down the road I wouldn't mind actually preventing or catching people in the act.

Ubiquiti antennas would work. A wireless link if there is line of sight.

If not then yeah a 4g router is another option.

keepalive213

P2P is the way forward
No forwarding ports, static ip etc.
Just scan the code, download an app and away you go. DIY setup

tellmeabit

Used the following a d a 4g sim in mine for calving.
Can send alerts and the pictures or video love to email account. And or save to memory

Dericam Outdoor WiFi IP Security Camera, PTZ Camera, 4x Optical Zoom, Auto-focus, 1.3 Megapixel, Pre-installed 32GB Memory Card, S1-32G White https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01KA8BJHE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_rQGsCb029RRBJ

emaherx

keepalive213 wrote: »

P2P is the way forward
No forwarding ports, static ip etc.
Just scan the code, download an app and away you go. DIY setup

It's simple but there are some security concerns.

keepalive213

emaherx wrote: »

It's simple but there are some security concerns.

If Chinese hackers want to spy on a few heifers I don't mind. I changed the default password if that makes any difference.

emaherx

keepalive213 wrote: »

If Chinese hackers want to spy on a few heifers I don't mind. I changed the default password if that makes any difference.

That's far from the only security concern or even the main one.

keepalive213

emaherx wrote: »

That's far from the only security concern or even the main one.

Can you say or is it top secret?

emaherx

keepalive213 wrote: »

Can you say or is it top secret?

Doubt it's a secret


Compromised device used to access other devices on your network.

Compromised device used as a bot to spam others using your IP.

Mobile apps that require far too much access to your mobile. Make phone calls, send texts, access to all data contacts etc.

Bog Man 1

A camera only shows you what is going on and who is there after it has happened . This works without internet or phone signal and can alert you 24 seven to intruders . I think it works off the Sygfox signal .

https://www.securetracksense.com/

https://www.securetracksense.com/security-multi-sensor/

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Bog Man 1 wrote: »

A camera only shows you what is going on and who is there after it has happened . This works without internet or phone signal and can alert you 24 seven to intruders . I think it works off the Sygfox signal .

https://www.securetracksense.com/

https://www.securetracksense.com/security-multi-sensor/

What's the cost?

Picked up the annke 8 channel system based on the above. £145 from. Amazon with 4 cameras.

keepalive213

emaherx wrote: »

Doubt it's a secret


Compromised device used to access other devices on your network.

Compromised device used as a bot to spam others using your IP.

Mobile apps that require far too much access to your mobile. Make phone calls, send texts, access to all data contacts etc.

I use a triax dvr without a hdd to upload, I'd be fairly confident in the software. Goin by advertising id guess the majority of DIY cctv hardware sold in Ireland now use P2P. It's a big market chunk to risk over selling vulnerable equipment.
Mobile broadband providers can be iffy about forwarding ports, local line of sight providers can demand money for static ips etc. P2P bypasses that.

Asus1

Just wondering do these camera's use much data if you just have them set to motion detection,like would 5/10 gb a month be enough.

arctictree

I had a security camera installed at a gate but the bast Ards knicked it...

emaherx

keepalive213 wrote: »

I use a triax dvr without a hdd to upload, I'd be fairly confident in the software. Goin by advertising id guess the majority of DIY cctv hardware sold in Ireland now use P2P. It's a big market chunk to risk over selling vulnerable equipment.
Mobile broadband providers can be iffy about forwarding ports, local line of sight providers can demand money for static ips etc. P2P bypasses that.

It is simple to implement. And often the only solution for 3G/4G setups. (Risk is isolated with remote 4G setups anyway as likely the only device on the network.)

I was just pointing out that P2P is not without it's issues. There are ways of minimising the risk which can be implemented easily by placing a cheap router with a firewall between such devices and the rest of your network.

emaherx

Asus1 wrote: »

Just wondering do these camera's use much data if you just have them set to motion detection,like would 5/10 gb a month be enough.

Very little of your internet data is used until you form a connection and remotly view the cameras. But 5 to 10GB a month could easily be used with HD video.

If you are referring to the devices storage it would depend on how often motion is triggered.

DesperateDan

Bog Man 1 wrote:

A camera only shows you what is going on and who is there after it has happened . This works without internet or phone signal and can alert you 24 seven to intruders . I think it works off the Sygfox signal .

These actually look very cool, we are in a black spot with no mobile coverage or broadband, any idea of the cost?

Asus1

emaherx wrote: »

Very little of your internet data is used until you form a connection and remotly view the cameras. But 5 to 10GB a month could easily be used with HD video.

If you are referring to the devices storage it would depend on how often motion is triggered.

I'm not really planning on remotely viewing it at all and would if possible not have it record until motion is detected (is this possible).The 5/ 10 gb is if it was sending email alerts and I connected to it for a few minutes 2 or 3 times a week would that much data be sufficient.Thanks

Timmaay

Asus1 wrote: »

No there is power to shed but need a system that would alert me or someone else if anything trips camera so was thinking of router and wireless with app.The problem with setting up to record is I assume they would probably find said recorder and take it.Also as shed is a few minutes down the road I wouldn't mind actually preventing or catching people in the act.

What all shops etc do is put the dvr in a thick steel locked case, and jsut have the monitor/mouse wires coming out of it, that way the dvr is always protected. You can still connect the dvr to the internet and see it on your phone (and setup alarms for if motion detected etc). You obviously need some way to hook up to the internet, be that a 4g router or some sort of nanostation to transmit back to your house if you have a line of sight.

DesperateDan

Ah them 'secure track sense' cameras seem to cost around €12 per month from a fb comment I can see. Obviously this Sygfox network connection needs to be paid for and that's how it's done

Asus1

Timmaay wrote: »

What all shops etc do is put the dvr in a thick steel locked case, and jsut have the monitor/mouse wires coming out of it, that way the dvr is always protected. You can still connect the dvr to the internet and see it on your phone (and setup alarms for if motion detected etc). You obviously need some way to hook up to the internet, be that a 4g router or some sort of nanostation to transmit back to your house if you have a line of sight.

Quick question on the nanostation,as I run three broadband in the house will the nanostation at the house connect to it wirelessly or does it need to be hardwired back to router.Any idea how much a pair of these cost.

Timmaay

Asus1 wrote: »

Quick question on the nanostation,as I run three broadband in the house will the nanostation at the house connect to it wirelessly or does it need to be hardwired back to router.Any idea how much a pair of these cost.

Hardwired back to your router at home. A set cost something around 80/100e I think. You really do need a near line of sight however, or only minor tree cover, it won't travel through any sort of buildings, forests or hills etc.

emaherx

Asus1 wrote: »

I'm not really planning on remotely viewing it at all and would if possible not have it record until motion is detected (is this possible).The 5/ 10 gb is if it was sending email alerts and I connected to it for a few minutes 2 or 3 times a week would that much data be sufficient.Thanks

The email alerts won’t send video so data requirement will be tiny. A few min of video 2 or 3 times a week and your 5-10GB should be more than sufficient.

Bog Man 1

Bridget Quiet Tightwad wrote: »

What's the cost?

Picked up the annke 8 channel system based on the above. £145 from. Amazon with 4 cameras.

DesperateDan wrote: »

These actually look very cool, we are in a black spot with no mobile coverage or broadband, any idea of the cost?

Not sure of the cost as it was given free because he set a European Record for a sygfox signal with his personal tracker . I think it was from Mt Leinster to some place in Spain .
I think cameras are a waste of time because it just shows a guy wearing a hoodie walking like Charlie Chaplain heading off with your chainsaw .I use the Cameras to check if gates are open so Oil lorry can come in .

blue5000

Folks be careful what you post on here about your security systems, remember anyone can read these posts.

pms7

Timmaay wrote: »

Hardwired back to your router at home. A set cost something around 80/100e I think. You really do need a near line of sight however, or only minor tree cover, it won't travel through any sort of buildings, forests or hills etc.

When putting the nano station in the shed near camera, how do you protect the poe connections from dampness corrosion?

orm0nd

pms7 wrote: »

When putting the nano station in the shed near camera, how do you protect the poe connections from dampness corrosion?

they're underneath and a clip on cover encloses it

when the nano station is left powered on all the time it stays at a constant temperature which cuts out dampness