Right of way

miss choc

If I'm on a main roundabout and someone coming off slip road from m50 do I have right of way nearly sure I do but just checking.

elperello

Yes if you are on the roundabout you have right of way.

miss choc

elperello wrote: »

Yes if you are on the roundabout you have right of way.

Ok thanks it's that main roundabout before northpoint past Ikea when you come off roundabout and there it the slip road to left with motorway drivers coming on.

biko

Moving into a roundabout can be considered making a lane change.
One must yield to anything already in a lane, if that makes sense?

J_R

biko wrote: »

Moving into a roundabout can be considered making a lane change.
One must yield to anything already in a lane, if that makes sense?

Hi,

Yes, very good analogy. And when changing position on a roundabout, such as exiting from an inside lane, drivers should realise that they are also changing lanes and must yield to any traffic already in any lane that they may cross.

Traffic joining a roundabout must yield to any traffic already on that roundabout, no exceptions. Some people believe that they have the right of way if they are following the "main" road through a roundabout. There is no "main" road through a roundabout, all roads joining a roundabout are equal, there is a "Yield" sign at all entrances to a roundabout.

Roundabout rules are very simple, turn left on joining and obey the ordinary everyday lane rules

Amouar

Who has the right of way here , blue or white car?



I was in the exact scenario this morning and it wasn't really clear who has the right of way.

J_R

Amouar wrote: »

Who has the right of way here , blue or white car?



I was in the exact scenario this morning and it wasn't really clear who has the right of way.

Hi
Neither of you. Should make eye contact and come to a mutual agreement as to how to proceed. The safest way is to go around each other, offside to offside. That method, nearside to nearside both of you block each other's view.

tuxy

J_R wrote: »

Hi
Neither of you. Should make eye contact and come to a mutual agreement as to how to proceed.

When I did my test I was told you should never use unofficial signals to other drivers,flashing lights, hand gestures etc...
During a test how would you come to a mutual agreement in this situation?

Spook_ie

I'm assuming the OP is refering to here rather than the actual roundabout which is light controlled from M50

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4072392,-6.2653448,3a,75y,175.94h,74.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soZ6xXF0rFL2Gu1LoKeAHDg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Drivers on the left should be matching speed and a gap for traffic already on the R108, though I have seen drivers on the R108 needlessly closing off a safe gap by accelerating for no reason other than a must get in front mentality.

However, if you still have merging traffic as far down as the turn after Ikea someone is seriously out of place!

wonski

J_R wrote: »

Hi
Neither of you. Should make eye contact and come to a mutual agreement as to how to proceed. The safest way is to go around each other, offside to offside. That method, nearside to nearside both of you block each other's view.

Obviously the car going straight ahead has a right of way. There is no eye contact or anything like that to play any part in this scenario.

Spook_ie

Amouar wrote: »

Who has the right of way here , blue or white car?



I was in the exact scenario this morning and it wasn't really clear who has the right of way.

The driver turning left (blue car )

J_R

Amouar wrote: »

Who has the right of way here , blue or white car?



I was in the exact scenario this morning and it wasn't really clear who has the right of way.

Hi,
Sorry, misread the diagram, only gave it cursory glance. Read it as both cars were turning right and did not see that it is a staggered junction.

If it was a "straight" junction then the blue car would be going straight across and the white car should proceed cautiously and wait until the blue passed.

But as it is a staggered junction the blue car must cross in front of the white car, each should proceed with caution. I assume there is a "Yield" sign for both cars ?.

And I was taught never to use the expression "Right of Way" as it conjures up the wrong attitude, such as come hell or high water I'm going through. Priority much better word.

Amouar

wonski wrote: »

Obviously the car going straight ahead has a right of way. There is no eye contact or anything like that to play any part in this scenario.

There is no car going straight. That car needs to turn left and then right in order to continue its journey.

wonski

Amouar wrote: »

There is no car going straight. That car needs to turn left and then right in order to continue its journey.

And still has a right of way.

Dravokivich

wonski wrote: »

Obviously the car going straight ahead has a right of way. There is no eye contact or anything like that to play any part in this scenario.

He isn't going straight. They are 2 separate junctions and should be treated as such.

Alanstrainor

I would have to agree with J-R's sentiment of 'proceed with caution'. As far as I see it, the blue car is making two turns here, which could be in two parts depending on traffic. Move onto the main carriageway and the indicate right to turn off. If either is entering first, then one must wait. As for what to do in the event of a mexican standoff, I would think the blue car can most easily make the first move. This is a non-typical junction however, and I would think it rare to encounter one, but an interesting question all the same.

Amouar

This is where I was in this situation:
https://goo.gl/maps/5Yac47xofnS2

irelandrover

I'd have throught the blue car has right of way. They have right of way to turn onto the main road and once there have right of way to make the right turn.

Chancer3001

The white car has right of way. He's crossing one lane on to the main road.

The blue car is crossing over two lanes

wonski

Well if we treat it as two separate junctions then you give a right of way to the car already on the road as above. Depends on what, if any, sign is before the junction.

Seve OB

Spook_ie wrote: »

I'm assuming the OP is refering to here rather than the actual roundabout which is light controlled from M50

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4072392,-6.2653448,3a,75y,175.94h,74.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soZ6xXF0rFL2Gu1LoKeAHDg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Drivers on the left should be matching speed and a gap for traffic already on the R108, though I have seen drivers on the R108 needlessly closing off a safe gap by accelerating for no reason other than a must get in front mentality.

However, if you still have merging traffic as far down as the turn after Ikea someone is seriously out of place!

I read it as other side of the roundabout, heading north. but same principle really, and OP question re roundabout is not correct as she is not on a roundabout

Dravokivich

Chancer3001 wrote: »

The white car has right of way. He's crossing one lane on to the main road.

The blue car is crossing over two lanes

You only know that because it's drawn on the picture.

J_R

hI,

Interesting exercise. However the link simplifies things a little.

If I have read map correctly. If both cars arrive at the junction together the white car must stop at the Stop sign (Nutley Rd.). If no other traffic the blue car may drive through. White can not move until the junction is clear.

1874

Amouar wrote: »

Who has the right of way here , blue or white car?



I was in the exact scenario this morning and it wasn't really clear who has the right of way.

Depends on who starts out moving off/reaches their respective junction first, but Blue in my view has more priority, if they are on the main carriageway first, then white car must yield to them,

If white was already moving or moved off, then they would be on the main carriageway first and blue would have to yield to them.

Amouar wrote: »

There is no car going straight. That car needs to turn left and then right in order to continue its journey.

Has nothing to do with it really, blue could be on the main carriageway first, turning left and right has no relevance.

Chancer3001 wrote: »

The white car has right of way. He's crossing one lane on to the main road.
The blue car is crossing over two lanes

Id say you are wrong, it has nothing to do with the amount of lanes that are being crossed, besides, both cars are crossing the same number of lanes, ie they move to their lane in the main carriageway first and then cross over, thats just to count it, but its not relevant, whats relevant is who has priority and that depends on other circumstances not shown in the picture, but that occur in the real world like signage, traffic, timing.