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Hedgehogs in the garden. Should I feed them or leave them alone?

  • 23-01-2019 4:55pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭


    I've noticed about ten of them lately over the past few days. I live rural with a big garden with a fence facing fields (not mine) at the back.

    I leave out shallow dishes of waterand it's usually gone by the evening.


    I leave dried worms (for birds) from pet shops, some choped green vegetables and fruit.


    Am I benefiting them by feeding them or am I causing more harm than good?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,878 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's not a good time of year to see them - in that they should be hibernating and saving their energy.
    if it was me, i'd leave food out; dog or cat food would be fine, though better to avoid any fish based food. no bread or milk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭pawrick


    They should be hibernating at the moment. It's possible they have woken early due to being disturbed or due to mild weather (although i don't think it's mild enough). Waking during hibernation runs the risk of starvation as thee is less food available in winter. Continue leaving out the food as you are doing, they also will eat cat food. There is a hedgehog sanctuary on facebook i think which might be able to offer some more advice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Crock Rock


    it's not a good time of year to see them - in that they should be hibernating and saving their energy.
    if it was me, i'd leave food out; dog or cat food would be fine, though better to avoid any fish based food. no bread or milk.


    Thanks. I heard that milk and bread is bad for their gut.
    If it was a mild winter I'd understand but it's very cold lately.
    Do they sleep for the entire winter during hibernation? Or do they wake up to piss / poo and drink etc?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Leave out cat food and water for them. If they're small (e.g less than 600g) they won't survive winter unless they have enough food and proper shelter, and may need to be rescued.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,748 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Into the pot,,,,,,,,,,joke, enjoy and leave alone


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭5p9arw38djv2b4


    Feeding them is very helpful at keeping their weight up, they should be hibernating but it's been very mild this winter. Tins of cat or dog food are really good but make sure you don't ever feed the fish based ones as hedgehogs can't digest this. They will also eat broken down cat or dog biscuits. Also water is great, but never give milk as they can't digest that either. Provided they are only coming out at night they are likely healthy and happy BUT if you ever see them out in daylight hours or if they don't react normally when approached (curling into a ball to protect themselves) then it's a problem, wrap them up using a coat or similar to pick them up and put them in a box and you can bring them to a local vet - it's often treatment for ticks etc they need. As hedgehogs numbers are way down vets will take them in for free. The hedgehog charities like hedgehog Dublin and hogsprickle are also great for advise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    They love a bit of mince meat as well!
    Also, if there's an awkward corner or hole to get stuck in, they will find it! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    All good advice but there's no way the OP saw 10 hedgehogs in his garden at any time, let along this time of year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Crock Rock


    All good advice but there's no way the OP saw 10 hedgehogs in his garden at any time, let along this time of year.


    Thanks for publicly implying that I am a liar. I've nothing to gain from lying and you're just being a busy body. Bye now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Crock Rock wrote: »
    Thanks for publicly implying that I am a liar. I've nothing to gain from lying and you're just being a busy body. Bye now.

    Not at all. But there could not have been 10 hedgehogs in one garden. Simple as that. One hedgehog ten times perhaps but not a herd of 10 hedgehogs. ;)


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,229 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Not at all. But there could not have been 10 hedgehogs in one garden. Simple as that. One hedgehog ten times perhaps but not a herd of 10 hedgehogs. ;)
    Actually, an array of hedgehogs.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog (under Etymology section)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I think their collective name should be changed to "pincushion". :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Actually, an array of hedgehogs.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog (under Etymology section)
    New Home wrote: »
    I think their collective name should be changed to "pincushion". :)
    I've seen a Prickle used in the past but I like Array.

    Anyway, I still contend that there could not have been an array of this size in a single garden in January.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Deagol


    Not at all. But there could not have been 10 hedgehogs in one garden. Simple as that. One hedgehog ten times perhaps but not a herd of 10 hedgehogs. ;)

    Not sure you're right about that. We at one stage had 2 adults and their roughly 3 yearlings in our garden spread over one night. You'd see one or two or three of them at a time in different corners. And as one would leave another would appear. And we have a 'normal' town garden about 15m x 10m or so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭doolox


    Answers on a post card please..........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Deagol wrote: »
    Not sure you're right about that. We at one stage had 2 adults and their roughly 3 yearlings in our garden spread over one night. You'd see one or two or three of them at a time in different corners. And as one would leave another would appear. And we have a 'normal' town garden about 15m x 10m or so.

    Let's get back to the specific context. Of course I have had up to five hedgehogs in the garden. A family group in a hedgehog friendly environment at the time of peak activity is expected. However, 10 in one garden is exceptional but, here's the rub, 10 active in a single garden in January (no matter how mild it may have been) is extremely dubious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭thejaguar


    All good advice but there's no way the OP saw 10 hedgehogs in his garden at any time, let along this time of year.

    This might be my favourite ever boards post.
    Crock Rock wrote: »
    Thanks for publicly implying that I am a liar. I've nothing to gain from lying and you're just being a busy body. Bye now.

    Oh c'mon - don't take it so seriously!

    Aside from that - this is a great thread - I've seen hedgehogs around my place from time to time - I never would have considered that they may need help. I will now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Living Off The Splash


    I would love to have one in my garden to eat the slugs.
    I also have frogs but I fear that these may also be eaten as a side dish.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Frogs are faster than snails, which gives them a better chance. :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,878 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    slugs don't form nearly as much of the diet of hedgehogs as gardeners like to think, IIRC. i think they prefer things which are a bit crunchier and more palatable.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Snails are crunchier. :P I think they like earthworms, too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 632 ✭✭✭Sorry about that


    Lovely idea to feed the hedgehogs op, but just beware of attracting rats to your garden, they may mistakenly think the food is for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Crock Rock wrote: »
    Thanks for publicly implying that I am a liar. I've nothing to gain from lying and you're just being a busy body. Bye now.

    Picture or it didn't happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    New Home wrote: »
    Frogs are faster than snails, which gives them a better chance. :)

    Have you seen the speed a hedgehog can go?
    No frog could out-hop a hedgehog!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I have (Sonic was slow by comparison), but frogs can suddenly jump any direction, which gives them more of a chance than a slug would have (and even slugs are faster than they're given credit for). :)


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,229 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    New Home wrote: »
    I have (Sonic was slow by comparison), but frogs can suddenly jump any direction, which gives them more of a chance than a slug would have (and even slugs are faster than they're given credit for). :)
    Maybe so. But Kermit's chances are massively reduced when you've 10 hedgehogs! :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,878 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    http://purelyfacts.com/question/12/which-is-faster-a-frog-or-a-hedgehog?DDA=40&DDB=52

    i suspect that's only half the story. we need to consider acceleration and ability to change direction too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Their diet is quite seasonal.

    Earthworms all year. Caterpillars & leatherjackets in April and May; Beetles and Earwigs from July to hibernation; Caterpillars, Leatherjackets and Slugs in September and October; Millipedes in September. Frogs seem to be taken mostly in July/August.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    And fruit, mushrooms and eggs (when they can find them).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    New Home wrote: »
    And fruit, mushrooms and eggs (when they can find them).

    Carrion is a significant portion of their diet as well.


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