General Watch Chat

scotchy

Sorry for starting a new thread for this, thought you might be interested.

Watching the end of Antiques Roadshow Last night, Have a look from 53.30.

How cool is that:cool: I think the owner was fully aware how valuable they were though.

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blindsider

If we all emptied our money-boxes, would we have enough? ;-)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-21/patek-philippe-may-come-up-for-sale-berenberg-analysts-say

Patek Philippe, the closely held maker of $10,000-plus Calatrava watches, may be coming up for sale, according to analysts at Berenberg who cited industry talk.

The 180-year-old Swiss watchmaker could fetch 7 billion to 9 billion euros ($8 billion to $10 billion), analysts led by Zuzanna Pusz wrote in a note. Patek Philippe has been owned by the Stern family for almost a century, and Thierry Stern became the company’s chairman in 2009.


Thierry SternPhotographer: Michele Limina/Bloomberg
“It was interesting to hear in the corridors of the Geneva watch salon that a potential sale of the high-end watch brand Patek Philippe could be approaching soon,” the analysts wrote, noting that it could be just a rumor.

A Patek spokeswoman declined to comment except to say deal speculation tends to occur during the annual watch fairs in Switzerland, including last week’s Geneva show. A sale of Patek Philippe would upend the watch industry and could lead to a bidding war, as it’s one of the last prize assets that hasn’t fallen into the hands of a luxury conglomerate. Swatch Group AG, which has bought up brands including Omega, and Richemont, which owns Cartier, make more than half of Swiss watches.

Patek Philippe has sales of 1.5 billion francs, according to Berenberg estimates. On its website, the company says its “intention is to independently pursue the path that led to its success.”

“We understand that one of the largest conglomerates in the sector would likely be interested in the asset given its currently relatively low exposure to the watch category,” the analysts wrote. Pusz wasn’t immediately available to comment further.

Two years ago, family-owned Breitling was sold to private-equity owners CVC Capital Partners for more than 800 million euros.

In 2014, Stern told Swiss newspaper Le Temps that the company may eventually need to leave Geneva or put itself up for sale if its tax burden wasn’t reduced. Months later, the company announced a 450 million-franc ($451 million) investment plan in the canton.

Stern’s wife, Sandrine, works in design at Patek Philippe. Their children are in their teens, and Patek’s chairman has said he wouldn’t push them into the business if they didn’t want to join.

Eoin

You'd never actually own Patek Philippe though, just look after it.

I'll get my coat.

Lorddrakul

That is mad money for a steely Sub - even with the Comex connection and logs.

I'm not mad about Rolex in general, but the Sub is one of the only designs of theirs that appeals. However, I'd just as soon have a Steinhart or the like.

Wibbs

It's the way the market is at the mo L and IMO it's a bubble with it. I remember back in the 90's Rolex Bubblebacks and early Oysters went nuts in "value" near overnight and online and off media was regularly featuring them and it stayed that way for a few years. Then the market just died. Nearly overnight with it.