The days of Jackie & Packie 1990

DS86DS

Was literally only a kid during Italia 1990 & USA 1994...but my God the memories will never leave me

The days when Ireland beat teams like Italy instead of the utter embarrassment that draws or loses with the most average of European sides.

I'm looking forward to Mick McCarthy been our manager once again...,.after two decades of shame

May we get back to been the Good Old Boys in Green....beating possibly Italy again on our way to the Semi finals

Come on you Boys N' Green ....let's make 2020 ours

COME ON YOU BOYS IN GREEN 2020!!!!!

RMAOK

I thought for a minute this thread was going to be about old Irish names that were going out of fashion

Dakotabigone

Did he ever get the reach around?

riffmongous

Put em under pressure

Mr. Incognito

Well that was underwhelming.

chrissb8

Errrr did you forget about 2002 taking Spain to the quarter finals and then to penalties? I mean we were hardly bad then.

valoren

I never witnessed the Packie Bonner save first hand. I was 10 years old and the tension was just too unbearable. I had to actually leave the house and take a walk on the street, a suburb in Cork City. Remember the opening scenes of 28 Days Later? With Cillian Murphy walking through London, spots where hundreds of people would normally be? It was just like that. There was no one around. No cars. Just this eerie silence that was punctuated intermittently with the wave of sound from the collective cheers from the litany of houses. A few moments later there was a particularly loud wave of sound. It was louder than the others. It sounded important. It was from Bonner's save. I sprinted back home and made it just in time for O'Leary's winner. I'll always remember that.

To look back with fondness is to pick such moments like that. If someone was to go revisit and watch the full game then you could only surmise that the football, with the hoofball tactics, was actually rubbish. It would be an interminable watch until the glory of the shootout. Eamon Dunphy became a national pariah for speaking out about it i.e. these were good players playing with top flight clubs but reduced to playing such primitive tactics. His point was that the players were better than it but the euphoria of it overwhelmed rational criticism. The back pass rule got introduced in 1992. Ireland were big proponents of it i.e. put em under pressure, get possession, get the ball back to Bonner who would pick it up, dribble it around his box then when everyone was in position he would hoof it up into their box where the big lads would try to win it and for the rest to capitalise on any mistakes. The Quinn goal against the Dutch was a prime example but this was what the overall strategy amounted to. Ironically, it has been one of the most successful rule changes to Football so thanks YBIG.

valoren

riffmongous wrote: »

Put em under pressure

"It's not gonna be easy for us...but.....it's not gonna be easy for them either"

Deebles McBeebles

I f*ckin love your optimism OP. COYBIG!

Woke Hogan

People need to get over Italia 90. They didn't win a single game on their way to the quarter finals and Packie Bonner's constant need to hold the ball actually lead to the introduction of the backpass rule. Auld fellas masturbating to their own past.

chrissb8

chrissb8 wrote: »

Errrr did you forget about 2002 taking Spain to the quarter finals and then to penalties? I mean we were hardly bad then.

Sadly, I think that was our last chance. I think we could have made the finals that year if Roy Keane and Mick McCarthy hadn't fallen out.

At the minute we need a striker.

Deebles McBeebles

Woke Hogan wrote: »

People need to get over Italia 90. They didn't win a single game on their way to the quarter finals and Packie Bonner's constant need to hold the ball actually lead to the introduction of the backpass rule. Auld fellas masturbating to their own past.

You weren't around for it were you?

Woke Hogan

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

You weren't around for it were you?

I was a grown man, and I watched all the games. You won't hear me waxing lyrical about them though: it was terrible football.

Deebles McBeebles

Woke Hogan wrote: »

I was a grown man, and I watched all the games. You won't hear me waxing lyrical about them though: it was terrible football.

Yeah, I hear ya, best to me totally pessimistic about things.

valoren

Woke Hogan wrote: »

People need to get over Italia 90. They didn't win a single game on their way to the quarter finals and Packie Bonner's constant need to hold the ball actually lead to the introduction of the backpass rule. Auld fellas masturbating to their own past.

Arguably, pedantically, the World Cup 'tournament' cycle itself also encompasses the qualification group of which we won 5 and drew 2 of our 8 matches. After qualifying for Euro 88, then the next step would have been to get to the finals in Italy for the first time so the interest was there from the first match of qualification.

DEFTLEFTHAND

People tend to forget that Packie's parry put us out in the OFs.

DS86DS

My late father was half Irish American....but be instilled in me one eternal truth..........

....that is to be always proud of been Irish



It seems that many people here HATE been Irish ....well I can't help you....maybe you are just EU toadies with a hatred of the Irish nation and seek it's abolition


But I stand by my principles.....I love Ireland..,...it is my favourite country in the whole wide world

I love two teams.....that is The Dubs in the All-Ireland and the Boys N' Green


COME ON YOU BOYS IN GREEN 2020...... relive 1990

COME ON IRISH PATRIOTISM........ COME ON YOU BOYS N' GREEN 2020


https://youtu.be/cEY68gm27fU

Timberrrrrrrr

DS86DS wrote: »

My late father was half Irish American....but be instilled in me one eternal truth..........

....that is to be always proud of been Irish



It seems that many people here HATE been Irish ....well I can't help you....maybe you are just EU toadies with a hatred of the Irish nation and seek it's abolition


But I stand by my principles.....I love Ireland..,...it is my favourite country in the whole wide world

I love two teams.....that is The Dubs in the All-Ireland and the Boys N' Green


COME ON YOU BOYS IN GREEN 2020...... relive 1990

COME ON IRISH PATRIOTISM........ COME ON YOU BOYS N' GREEN 2020

How do you know? I mean it's not like you have visited every country is it?

Woke Hogan

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Yeah, I hear ya, best to me totally pessimistic about things.

Who's being pessimistic? I only hope for the best in the future. It's time to let go of the past, though.

Laois_Man

It never seems to get mentioned much (if at all) that Packie was actually a pretty 5hit 'keeper!!

Shay Given in his prime, was the only great 'keeper we've had in my time!

DS86DS

WTF is wrong with you Modern Ireland.,..... you are a brave and noble Ancient Celtic people..............so fiercome that the Ancient Romans dared not invade your land

And the Ancient Romans were s battle hardened bunch.,...they did not dare to invade Hibernia....they knew better

WTF has happened to this Ancient Celtic land or warriors and storytellers

The Celtic warrior had been stressed and beaten upon enough

May the Irish Celtic Warrior spririt of 2020 mimic that of the most ancient kindred spirit


Ireland 2020.....Come on you Boys in Green