Council tenant seeking to be rehoused due to rats

ayux4rj6zql2ph

The rats are outside the property not inside.

It is in a large council estate in the Northside of Cork City called Killala gardens, is this a poor area?

If these people secured a transfer I’d imagine it will open the flood gates from other tenants?

I don’t know the area personally but have heard lots on the radio in recent days about it.

http://www.redfm.ie/news/cork/dead-rats-lie-outside-knocknaheeny-womans-home-today-as-she-renews-calls-to-be-relocated/

Fann Linn

Kamila Quick Mineral wrote: »

The rats are outside the property not inside.

It is in a large council estate in the Northside of Cork City called Killala gardens.

If these people secured a transfer I’d imagine it will open the flood gates from other tenants?

I don’t know the area personally but have heard lots on the radio in recent days about it.

http://www.redfm.ie/news/cork/dead-rats-lie-outside-knocknaheeny-womans-home-today-as-she-renews-calls-to-be-relocated/

I suppose she could do what the rest of us have to do and set poison.
Has she bins?

ayux4rj6zql2ph

Fann Linn wrote: »

I suppose she could do what the rest of us have to do and set poison.
Has she bins?

Rats chewed bins, that radio station have a video of it.

Rat poison was put down, rats now dead outside house.

All I’m seeing in articles is council this council that council everything.

Not willing to do what any ordinary home owner would do and sort it themselves.

If the estate is as large as I’ve read up then she isn’t an isolated case, Facebook comments suggest it is a decades old problem.

Fann Linn

Kamila Quick Mineral wrote: »

Rats chewed bins, that radio station have a video of it.

Rat poison was put down, rats now dead outside house.

All I’m seeing in articles is council this council that council everything.

Not willing to do what any ordinary home owner would do and sort it themselves.

If the estate is as large as I’ve read up then she isn’t an isolated case, Facebook comments suggest it is a decades old problem.

Thanks. Your link wouldn't open the first time round.

kub

It always seems to be someone else's fault, someone else's responsibility.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

Fann Linn wrote: »

Thanks. Your link wouldn't open the first time round.

Apologies. It is on the Cork’s RedFM website.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

kub wrote: »

It always seems to be someone else's fault, someone else's responsibility.

Absolutely!

Dravokivich

If the council are their landlords why not? When I was renting, I'd run any issue with the property through the landlord or agent. Tenancy is a service.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

Dravokivich wrote: »

If the council are their landlords why not? When I was renting, I'd run any issue with the property through the landlord or agent. Tenancy is a service.

The council put down poison, now she wants a transfer. Would you agree with that?

The lady claims there’s “hundreds of rats” I find that hard to believe.

gctest50

Stop dumping rubbish nearby

Unplug from daytime TV and go gather up any and fix any gaps

It's not f***** bears they have

ayux4rj6zql2ph

gctest50 wrote: »

Stop dumping rubbish nearby

Unplug from daytime TV and go gather up any and fix any gaps

It's not f***** bears they have

:pac:

TheChizler

She said she had to get rid of her dogs because the rats were eating their food outside. Could that partly have been what was attracting them? Why not feed the dogs inside?

ayux4rj6zql2ph

TheChizler wrote: »

She said she had to get rid of her dogs because the rats were eating their food outside. Could that partly have been what was attracting them? Why not feed the dogs inside?

Would dogs not help keep them away?

kub

Why does she not get a few cats?


Natures way is best.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

kub wrote: »

Why does she not get a few cats?


Natures way is best.

Aye that’d sort the live rats issue, where would the cats dispense with them is another issue, they don’t always dine out on rat for lunch after ‘playing’ with them do they?

gctest50

kub wrote: »

Why does she not get a few cats?
.......

Doesn't work anymore, rats have learned - where there is a cat or dog, there is food

ayux4rj6zql2ph

gctest50 wrote: »

Doesn't work anymore, rats have learned - where there is a cat or dog, there is food

Smart rats

gctest50

Every try one that has escaped a trap or been half-poisoned ?

Anyway little housecat no match for a well-reared rat :

whisky_galore

kub wrote: »

It always seems to be someone else's fault, someone else's responsibility.

If a third party is dumping rubbish nearby, it's their fault, is it not?

gctest50

Kamila Quick Mineral wrote: »

Smart rats

And ....in certain areas of South of England and West Country where greater than 70% the animals tested are of the ‘super rat’ type

The term ‘super rat’ is quite appropriate, says Dr Clarke. The creatures that are unaffected by routine poisons have not become resistant because of their DNA mutating as a result of their exposure to the rodenticide chemicals. The timescale is too short for that.
Instead they have a naturally occuring genetic mutation that protects them from the rodenticide poisons

ayux4rj6zql2ph

whisky_galore wrote: »

If a third party is dumping rubbish nearby, it's their fault, is it not?

From what i seen on google maps the rubbish is being disposed of in a lane way at the back of the property, it runs parallel to several houses not just this one, also there is a house right next to where the rubbish is dumped, no outcry from this household.

Doesn't warrant a transfer though.

Edit:

This is the area on the map, doesn't look the most pleasant.

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Kilmore+Rd+Lower,+Cork/@51.9101144,-8.4956626,3a,75y,161.67h,79.61t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDDZ7sNyBiKJK7Utqcn6Etw!2e0!3e11!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x484490465b1b9c2b:0x9cb23ed3c2b252e6!8m2!3d51.9088619!4d-8.5005223

gctest50

Someone burning waste on the green area, smells like a barbeque to the rat


51°54'31.8"N 8°29'58.6"W



https://map.what3words.com/glad.discrepancy.strong

ayux4rj6zql2ph

gctest50 wrote: »

Someone burning waste on the green area, smells like a barbeque to the rat


51°54'31.8"N 8°29'58.6"W



https://map.what3words.com/glad.discrepancy.strong

The map i looked at shows this area as being a bit away from there, plus it was June on the map? A popular time for bonfires in Cork?

mikeym

People up there are too stingy to pay for bin collections and are more than happy to dump it down a lane.


But I bet they can afford the Sky/virgin tv.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

mikeym wrote: »

People up there are too stingy to pay for bin collections and are more than happy to dump it down a lane.


But I bet they can afford the Sky/virgin tv.

If they don't live in the neighbouring estates what does it cost them in fuel to transport the waste, more than a weekly bin collection i'd say.

Treviso

Killala gardens has been suffering from illegal dumping for years, those of you looking at images on google maps can't make a judgement call on this problem. It is an absolute kip at times. As soon as the city council clear the rubbish in these laneways every few weeks, the dumping starts over again.

I can't blame this person for wanting a transfer - no amount of rat poison, traps, cats, will resolve this for her. Fair play to her for being so vocal on it - no place to be raising a family. Council need to sort it, not by cleaning up the rubbish periodical, but by tackling the dumping issue. CCTV should be installed - but that might cause uproar with the locals too

ayux4rj6zql2ph

Treviso wrote: »

Killala gardens has been suffering from illegal dumping for years, those of you looking at images on google maps can't make a judgement call on this problem. It is an absolute kip at times. As soon as the city council clear the rubbish in these laneways every few weeks, the dumping starts over again.

I can't blame this person for wanting a transfer - no amount of rat poison, traps, cats, will resolve this for her. Fair play to her for being so vocal on it - no place to be raising a family. Council need to sort it, not by cleaning up the rubbish periodical, but by tackling the dumping issue. CCTV should be installed - but that might cause uproar with the locals too

Fair point on the images.

The council are screwed when they act and also if they don’t.

Do you believe she should get a transfer? If it happens it will be a case of monkey see monkey do.

CCTV? Not always efficient is it? If people want to disguise themselves they will do it. Also blocking out vehicle registrations.

Treviso

Kamila Quick Mineral wrote: »

Fair point on the images.

The council are screwed when they act and also if they don’t.

Do you believe she should get a transfer? If it happens it will be a case of monkey see monkey do.

CCTV? Not always efficient is it? If people want to disguise themselves they will do it. Also blocking out vehicle registrations.

In this case I do, the rats seemed to have made her home/garden their nesting grounds. I understand by doing so, you'll have others asking for a transfer too when they see one mouse in their garden. That'll always be the case.

Its not like she will be moved to a totally different area, probably get another house close by as Knocknaheeny is in the middle of a housing regeneration scheme.

Maybe you're right and she's looking for one of the new houses up there, chancing her luck. But I can think of better ways to get a new house then letting your current one be infested with rats!

CCTV wouldn't solve the problem alone but at least it would be a deterrent for dumpers (and other criminal activity).

whisky_galore

gctest50 wrote: »

Someone burning waste on the green area, smells like a barbeque to the rat


51°54'31.8"N 8°29'58.6"W



https://map.what3words.com/glad.discrepancy.strong

Any chance the 'two legged rats' could be poisoned?

ayux4rj6zql2ph

whisky_galore wrote: »

Any chance the 'two legged rats' could be poisoned?

Doesn’t look like the type of area you’ll find those in , rather they will poison you for being said rat.

Manach

It might come across as rather flippant but a decent terrier would sort out the rat population in the immediate area of the house.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

Manach wrote: »

It might come across as rather flippant but a decent terrier would sort out the rat population in the immediate area of the house.

They got rid of two jack russell dogs, surely they’d have done the trick?

Gimme A Pound

Kamila Quick Mineral wrote: »

The rats are outside the property not inside.

It is in a large council estate in the Northside of Cork City called Killala gardens, is this a poor area?

If these people secured a transfer I’d imagine it will open the flood gates from other tenants?

I don’t know the area personally but have heard lots on the radio in recent days about it.

http://www.redfm.ie/news/cork/dead-rats-lie-outside-knocknaheeny-womans-home-today-as-she-renews-calls-to-be-relocated/

Yes it is a poor area, Knocknaheeny - probably the poorest part of Cork city. Not the worst reason to look for a transfer. And it's miles off "I'm refusing a house" because of some ludicrous reason.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

Liv Scarce News wrote: »

Yes it is a poor area, Knocknaheeny - probably the poorest part of Cork city. Not the worst reason to look for a transfer. And it's miles off "I'm refusing a house" because of some ludicrous reason.

Is there any history of this occurring resulting in a transfer in Cork?

I know in Dublin it did happen one time but the problem was internal as well as external, in this case the problem appears external, the source being illegal dumping.

Sonics2k

Isn't she living up by where all those scumbags are doing a load of illegal dumping?

It's very possible that's causing a lot of the attraction. Also Knocknaheeny is a shít hole. I don't care what people say, I grew up there and it's a shít hole.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

Sonics2k wrote: »

Isn't she living up by where all those scumbags are doing a load of illegal dumping?

It's very possible that's causing a lot of the attraction. Also Knocknaheeny is a shít hole. I don't care what people say, I grew up there and it's a shít hole.

Aye that's the spot.

A quick google search paints a very negative picture of the area, drugs,joyriding,shootings are not uncommon in the area.

As a result of this there is another story after coming to light this morning on 96fm of a householder with rats.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

Another house in 'Knocka'

https://twitter.com/OpinionLine96/status/1085106443320283136

SusieBlue

I'm familiar with the area and from what I've seen and heard a certain ethnic minority (among others) are using the lane next to that womans house as their own personal dumping ground, and have done for the last few years.

The house she lives in was boarded up and unoccupied for many years before she moved in, by all accounts from the before and after pictures I've seen she's put a lot of money into it, doing up the outside and the garden making it into a proper little home.

I don't blame her for expecting the council to sort it because even if she got some sort of pest control in, the problem is going to keep happening so long as people are dumping their rubbish down that lane. And the council is responsible for that lane.

Its a total health and safety hazard and it needs to be sorted. Imagine trying to rear kids living in those kinds of conditions.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

SusieBlue wrote: »

I'm familiar with the area and from what I've seen and heard a certain ethnic minority (among others) are using the lane next to that womans house as their own personal dumping ground, and have done for the last few years.

The house she lives in was boarded up and unoccupied for many years before she moved in, by all accounts from the before and after pictures I've seen she's put a lot of money into it, doing up the outside and the garden making it into a proper little home.

I don't blame her for expecting the council to sort it because even if she got some sort of pest control in, the problem is going to keep happening so long as people are dumping their rubbish down that lane. And the council is responsible for that lane.

Its a total health and safety hazard and it needs to be sorted. Imagine trying to rear kids living in those kinds of conditions.

Similar story with them in this article.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/illegal-dumpers-in-cork-to-avoid-prosecution-885184.html

Terrible things the settled community do to them :pac:

SusieBlue

Kamila Quick Mineral wrote: »

Similar story with them in this article.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/illegal-dumpers-in-cork-to-avoid-prosecution-885184.html

Terrible things the settled community do to them :pac:

Someone in the FB comments section said it was the councils fault for not supplying the ethnic minority groups free bins and bin collections, and what else were the supposed to do.
Eh, maybe pay for their waste disposal like the rest of us??!?

tretorn

If there is an ongoing rodent problem some thing is drawing the rats and its probably food waste dumped to avoid paying for it to be collected.

I have lived in houses all my life and only had rats once. That was because my partner piled up leaves in the garden and the rats nested under them. Another neighbour had rats because she was dumping cooked food in a compost and the rats were getting in underneath. Bord tables also attract rats so avoid having them too.

Its not rocket science.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

SusieBlue wrote: »

Someone in the FB comments section said it was the councils fault for not supplying the ethnic minority groups free bins and bin collections, and what else were the supposed to do.
Eh, maybe pay for their waste disposal like the rest of us??!?

Totally agree with you. The pictures from the ethnic minority's residence makes for disturbing viewing.

looking at the google map from the Killala Gardens story i looked down the lane at the back of that property, how is it that a house in the centre of the block appears to have the infestation and the others apparently don't?

I do understand from a previous comment that the area is undergoing regeneration, hence brand new houses, are those trying to jump on the bandwagon hoping for one?

I'd be surprised if a transfer was given as it is an issue that can be eradicated.

We've all had rats at some stage everywhere.

A grand terrier, jeyes fluid, dettol etc on top of poison would help.

That guy on RedFM is talking about it now.

cursai

I thought rodents would have kept rats away.

Treviso

Kamila Quick Mineral wrote: »

Totally agree with you. The pictures from the ethnic minority's residence makes for disturbing viewing.

looking at the google map from the Killala Gardens story i looked down the lane at the back of that property, how is it that a house in the centre of the block appears to have the infestation and the others apparently don't?

I do understand from a previous comment that the area is undergoing regeneration, hence brand new houses, are those trying to jump on the bandwagon hoping for one?

I'd be surprised if a transfer was given as it is an issue that can be eradicated.

We've all had rats at some stage everywhere.

A grand terrier, jeyes fluid, dettol etc on top of poison would help.

That guy on RedFM is talking about it now.

Yes it is under regeneration but that area will not be knocked down until 2025 apparently. In terms of the houses around them, from the report this morning they are also infested. Maybe the inhabitants aren't the most vocal types/some people can live in this filth etc so that is why we haven't heard about it.

Even if they eradicated the problem, got rid of every single rat up there, eventually they would return due to the amount of sh!te that is dumped in that area.

I'm originally from that area, grew up there - loads of nice people living there but as the poster above says its a kip. Even with the regeneration going, its still a kip

ayux4rj6zql2ph

Treviso wrote: »

Yes it is under regeneration but that area will not be knocked down until 2025 apparently. In terms of the houses around them, from the report this morning they are also infested. Maybe the inhabitants aren't the most vocal types/some people can live in this filth etc so that is why we haven't heard about it.

Even if they eradicated the problem, got rid of every single rat up there, eventually they would return due to the amount of sh!te that is dumped in that area.

I'm originally from that area, grew up there - loads of nice people living there but as the poster above says its a kip. Even with the regeneration going, its still a kip

2025? a lot can happen between now and then, another economic crash and that is the end of that.

I was listening to the report on the radio and digs took place in all bar 1 house, which leads me to suspect is that particular house where the nests are? the back yard is overgrown apparently.

You will never ever get rid of rats in their entirety, just because they aren't seen they aren't around.

I say this after putting down a gallon of jeyes fluid out my own back yard and i'm on the southside :pac::pac::pac: