Resigning from work due to commute

questionee

Hi,

As we know the housing crisis in this country is in full swing, it is impossible for me to find a reasonable housing to avoid having very long commute of 4/5 hours every single day...

What is the social welfare policy of leaving work? Will I be able to get JSA/JB afterwards? I have been putting up with this for a year but I can't take it anymore, might want to take up disability allowance due to health issues that resulted as a reason of this kind of commute...

Thanks!

Dial Hard

Why not just get a job closer to home?

Shefwedfan

questionee wrote: »

Hi,

As we know the housing crisis in this country is in full swing, it is impossible for me to find a reasonable housing to avoid having very long commute of 4/5 hours every single day...

What is the social welfare policy of leaving work? Will I be able to get JSA/JB afterwards? I have been putting up with this for a year but I can't take it anymore, might want to take up disability allowance due to health issues that resulted as a reason of this kind of commute...

Thanks!

Unless from driving from belfast to Dublin and back how are you doing 4/5 hour commute?

_Brian

Stick it out and look for more suitable work.

It’s always easier to get a job when working.

MarkHenderson

I applaud you OP on taking this decision. Life is too short to spend 4 hours a day in a car/bus/train etc...

If you are young enough look at getting out maybe to New Zealand/Aus etc..

Go to your doctor and get a letter stating you are suffering from stress due to the commute if you want to claim benefits.

elfy4eva

You will be disqualified from jobseeker payments for 9 weeks if you leave work voluntarily without good reason.

If you are sincerely suffering mental health difficulties this might be good enough reason though. Along with your application you would need to submit a letter from your GP and they would also want a fit for work cert to ensure you are eligible for those payments.

mr_edge_to_you

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Unless from driving from belfast to Dublin and back how are you doing 4/5 hour commute?

Slightly off topic but I live 25 miles from Dublin. My commute using car, train, walking/Luas would take between 1.5 and 2 hours during the summer. In the winter a 35min train journey would be regularly over 50 mins. If you live outside the M50 it's very easy for your commute time to rise to 2+ hours each way.

Go to the M3 Parkway and look at all the MH and CN registered cars parked there. These people could be driving for an hour plus before beginning their commute into Dublin. I did it for 3 years and can fully appreciate the ops position.

Heres Johnny

You're dead right not to keep doing it. I got stuck on m50 for 90 mins yesterday evening to do a 20km drive. Luckily it wss a one off. How people do that every day, twice a day in rush hour is beyond me.
But the country is in full swing, jobs should be easy to come by.

Shefwedfan

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Slightly off topic but I live 25 miles from Dublin. My commute using car, train, walking/Luas would take between 1.5 and 2 hours during the summer. In the winter a 35min train journey would be regularly over 50 mins. If you live outside the M50 it's very easy for your commute time to rise to 2+ hours each way.

Go to the M3 Parkway and look at all the MH and CN registered cars parked there. These people could be driving for an hour plus before beginning their commute into Dublin. I did it for 3 years and can fully appreciate the ops position.

I did that commute, more 50 mins and then train....I know loads of people still doing it, don’t do it myself anymore

Loads of options as well, loads of people will rent out a spare room for a few quid during the week, help pay the bills....just for people who are working, not allowed stay on weekend etc

I done it for a while for friend but didn’t charge them...

If you want to work you will find a way, to be honest if someone does give up a good job they should get nothing from government for at least 2 years....trying to claim mental stress from commute is a joke

Dr Turk Turkelton

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I did that commute, more 50 mins and then train....I know loads of people still doing it, don’t do it myself anymore

Loads of options as well, loads of people will rent out a spare room for a few quid during the week, help pay the bills....just for people who are working, not allowed stay on weekend etc

I done it for a while for friend but didn’t charge them...

If you want to work you will find a way, to be honest if someone does give up a good job they should get nothing from government for at least 2 years....trying to claim mental stress from commute is a joke

First post with a bit of sense in it. The entitlement culture in this country is beyond ridicules when people are advocating getting a disability payment just because someone has to drive to work!

Dr Turk Turkelton

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

just because someone has to drive to work!

4 hours a day, sitting in a car, on top of a presumed 8 hour work day, is 12 hours.


You've enough time to get a shower and something to eat before going to bed to get up on time to do it again tomorrow.


If that's not depressing; I don't know what is. I know I wouldn't do it.

splinter65

questionee wrote: »

Hi,

As we know the housing crisis in this country is in full swing, it is impossible for me to find a reasonable housing to avoid having very long commute of 4/5 hours every single day...

What is the social welfare policy of leaving work? Will I be able to get JSA/JB afterwards? I have been putting up with this for a year but I can't take it anymore, might want to take up disability allowance due to health issues that resulted as a reason of this kind of commute...

Thanks!

It’s very hard to predict. If your sitting in front of a DO who has a long commute themselves telling him/her that you quit because of your long commute then you might understand if they disqualify you for 9 weeks.

Bigmac1euro

[Deleted User] wrote: »

4 hours a day, sitting in a car, on top of a presumed 8 hour work day, is 12 hours.


You've enough time to get a shower and something to eat before going to bed to get up on time to do it again tomorrow.


If that's not depressing; I don't know what is. I know I wouldn't do it.

This!

Easy for people to say “the entitlement” obviously haven’t got a long commute.
I currently have a 30 min commute and it’s absolutely brilliant.
I had a 4 hour commute a few years back. Ended up suffering with pretty severe Anxiety. Sleeping late because I had to eat dinner and getting up early to commute which played hell on me psychologically due to lack of sleep. My skin got very pale, sty on my eye from rubbing them all the time.
Ended up in the doctors office and he advised me to take 3 weeks off. I left the job shortly after this and said NEVER AGAIN.
What’s the point in living that way.
Better off on jobseekers.

Shefwedfan

[Deleted User] wrote: »

4 hours a day, sitting in a car, on top of a presumed 8 hour work day, is 12 hours.


You've enough time to get a shower and something to eat before going to bed to get up on time to do it again tomorrow.


If that's not depressing; I don't know what is. I know I wouldn't do it.

As I said option available, 2-3 days you could stay in room near work, then commute....loads of people so similar....

Too much money available for sitting on your arse at home is the problem, people take the easier option....

Dial Hard

Deleted User wrote:

4 hours a day, sitting in a car, on top of a presumed 8 hour work day, is 12 hours.

If that's not depressing; I don't know what is. I know I wouldn't do it.

I did it myself for years, and it did eventually get to me, so I quit my job in Dublin. But got another one in a local supermarket. It was rubbish money and not exactly a career move, but needs must. You can't just go "Ho hum, I'm sick of my commute, I'm packing it in and going on the scratch".

devlinio

I'm 23, live and work in Dublin as a Software Developer. I'm commuting 3 hours a day, and I hate it.

I'm getting out as soon as my savings is bulky enough.

questionee

Thanks for the comments guys, so I can be disqualified for 9 weeks after voluntarily quitting my job. I have enough savings to survive those 9 weeks. I will be giving in my notice on Monday, I will try to look for a job locally, if I don't get JB/JSA I will not have money to buy food but that's ok, might hunt pigeons or steal. Mods can close the thread. Cheers.

devlinio

questionee wrote: »

Thanks for the comments guys, so I can be disqualified for 9 weeks after voluntarily quitting my job. I have enough savings to survive those 9 weeks. I will be giving in my notice on Monday, I will try to look for a job locally, if I don't get JB/JSA I will not have money to buy food but that's ok, might hunt pigeons or steal. Mods can close the thread. Cheers.

Would you not wait and collect a few more months of wages. I know its ****, but its money.

Twenty Grand

questionee wrote: »

Thanks for the comments guys, so I can be disqualified for 9 weeks after voluntarily quitting my job. I have enough savings to survive those 9 weeks. I will be giving in my notice on Monday, I will try to look for a job locally, if I don't get JB/JSA I will not have money to buy food but that's ok, might hunt pigeons or steal. Mods can close the thread. Cheers.

If it was me, I wouldn't say anything about leaving.

Just say you're not working any more. Only give a reason if they ask.
Best of luck to you. Best thing I ever did was quit my job and take a few weeks to reevaluate my life.
(My commute is now 10 minutes)

splinter65

Twenty Grand wrote: »

If it was me, I wouldn't say anything about leaving.

Just say you're not working any more. Only give a reason if they ask.
Best of luck to you. Best thing I ever did was quit my job and take a few weeks to reevaluate my life.
(My commute is now 10 minutes)

When you make a fresh application for JSB not only do DEASP ask you why you left they also send a form for completion to your last employer regarding the circumstances of your departure. Getting sacked or quitting without a proper reason disqualifies you from payment for 9 weeks.

Samuel T. Cogley

Very much down to the officer you're sitting in front of and it's up to nine weeks. Just tell them you were suffering due to work pressure and went before you were pushed.

Xterminator

I do 4 hours a day commuting using public transport & have done so for some time. and it is tough - no doubt about that.

But I would not be giving up my job without lining something else up 1st. OP is perfectly entitled to improve their living situation, just not entitled to expect the taxpayer to pick up the bill!

so update your CV and find a job closer, or look at moving home. do a night course and upskill. a fried of mine who really lives in the sticks changed job to one that lets him work from home 2-3 days a week.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

splinter65 wrote: »

When you make a fresh application for JSB not only do DEASP ask you why you left they also send a form for completion to your last employer regarding the circumstances of your departure. Getting sacked or quitting without a proper reason disqualifies you from payment for 9 weeks.

Was on the dole myself once for a brief period, I was sacked, they asked me to write down on a sheet of paper what happened, was never disqualified, needless to say I wasn’t out of work very long, I treated it as a very short holiday if anything.

splinter65

Mia Thundering Plumbing wrote: »

Was on the dole myself once for a brief period, I was sacked, they asked me to write down on a sheet of paper what happened, was never disqualified, needless to say I wasn’t out of work very long, I treated it as a very short holiday if anything.

Things have moved on since then

ayux4rj6zql2ph

splinter65 wrote: »

Things have moved on since then

Thankfully I haven’t had the need to learn the new rules.

questionee

Xterminator wrote: »

I do 4 hours a day commuting using public transport & have done so for some time. and it is tough - no doubt about that.

But I would not be giving up my job without lining something else up 1st. OP is perfectly entitled to improve their living situation, just not entitled to expect the taxpayer to pick up the bill!

so update your CV and find a job closer, or look at moving home. do a night course and upskill. a fried of mine who really lives in the sticks changed job to one that lets him work from home 2-3 days a week.

Upskill? You mean get a masters degree in software development? LMAO, maybe mr government minister of housing should upskill in his job because he clearly sucks at it if a person working cannot rent a house near his work. anyway the taxpayers are going to pay for me until i find work close to home i am not ever getting close to a bus ever again

questionee

questionee wrote: »

Upskill? You mean get a masters degree in software development? LMAO, maybe mr government minister of housing should upskill in his job because he clearly sucks at it if a person working cannot rent a house near his work. anyway the taxpayers are going to pay for me until i find work close to home i am not ever getting close to a bus ever again

Might be good to have a read of this http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Jobseekers-Allowance.aspx before you make your decision, noting especially the section dealing with an applicant placing Unreasonable Restrictions with regard to the work being sought and just generally read it to be fully up to speed on what will be expected of you in order to get JA/JB. Best to be equipped with all the information which is freely available.

Xterminator

questionee wrote: »

Upskill? You mean get a masters degree in software development?

thats one possibility, but not what i was thinking. assuming you have a honours degree in something computer related, why not broaden your scope?

how about a certificate in project management, to compliment programming skills.
are you ITIL certified?
training in GDPR etc?

Remember training is an investment in you.

beauf

Before you for do any training work out what the return in terms of salary is. People often do endless courses and qualifications that don't always increase their salary by much if anything.

ebbsy

Shefwedfan wrote: »

questionee wrote: »

Hi,

As we know the housing crisis in this country is in full swing, it is impossible for me to find a reasonable housing to avoid having very long commute of 4/5 hours every single day...

What is the social welfare policy of leaving work? Will I be able to get JSA/JB afterwards? I have been putting up with this for a year but I can't take it anymore, might want to take up disability allowance due to health issues that resulted as a reason of this kind of commute...

Thanks!

Unless from driving from belfast to Dublin and back how are you doing 4/5 hour commute?

I go from Monasterevin to Ringsend every day. It can be 4 hours.

realdanbreen

questionee wrote: »

Thanks for the comments guys, so I can be disqualified for 9 weeks after voluntarily quitting my job. I have enough savings to survive those 9 weeks. I will be giving in my notice on Monday, I will try to look for a job locally, if I don't get JB/JSA I will not have money to buy food but that's ok, might hunt pigeons or steal. Mods can close the thread. Cheers.

I can tell from your last sentence that you would be an asset to any company.