Diagnosis needed

keepalive213

Animal is 9 months old and on my farm with approx 3 weeks.
Soon as I got them I dosed them with animec pour on.
A week ago my vet injected her with ringvac as she thought it was ringworm.
It's still getting progressively worse.
Animal is fine besides and eating away etc.
None of the rest have any sign of it and they are kept under good conditions.
Apologies if I am breaking boards rules by asking for such advice.

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greysides

ModAs it's not a life threatening situation discussion is okay for now but anyone offering disreputable solutions may watch out. Read the relevant section of the F&F charter if you're in doubt.

greysides

My view is that it does look like Ringworm on the skin surface. Is there swelling of the affected and nearby areas under the skin?

whelan2

It takes a good while to go away. We put sudocreme on them here.

keepalive213

greysides wrote: »

My view is that it does look like Ringworm on the skin surface. Is there swelling of the affected and nearby areas under the skin?

Tbh I haven't noticed any swelling, just hair-loss and the white dust underneath.
Hopefully it will stop getting worse and start improving, she has to be injected again anyway with the ringvac but not yet.
I had just got rid of ringworm out of the shed / yard after 3 years of bleaching and power washing. The joys of farming.
Thanks for the replies.

wrangler

keepalive213 wrote: »

Tbh I haven't noticed any swelling, just hair-loss and the white dust underneath.
Hopefully it will stop getting worse and start improving, she has to be injected again anyway with the ringvac but not yet.
I had just got rid of ringworm out of the shed / yard after 3 years of bleaching and power washing. The joys of farming.
Thanks for the replies.

A lot of good farmers hang bunches of holly from the roof for ringworm.....cant do any harm.
I've no experience of ringworm, but the last place I saw holly hanging in sheds was Richard Bourns in Galway and he houses thousands of cattle......there must be something in it

tellmeabit

Mod note. Read the relevant section of the charter. We're not getting into this type of treatment here. Thanks. GC

Aravo

wrangler wrote:

A lot of good farmers hang bunches of holly from the roof for ringworm.....cant do any harm. I've no experience of ringworm, but the last place I saw holly hanging in sheds was Richard Bourns in Galway and he houses thousands of cattle......there must be something in it

Use the buck holly. It's the female holly that has the berries. The buck holly is the male holly and is a lot more prickely.

atlantic mist

looks like eczema we had a few similar this is what we do is

we give zinc tablet orally for a week, help immune system

the eye is not to bad, zinc cream rubbed on should do

back is fairly bad and may never clear fully, jug of water and three teaspoons of milton (disinfectant for washing baby bottles) and pour over for three days to kill bugs on dead skin, caster oil after that for as long as needed

keep him/her topped up with fly and mite repealant they will go mad for weak spots

valtra2

tellmeabit wrote: »

Mod note. Read the relevant section of the charter. We're not getting into this type of treatment here. Thanks. GC

Seriously!!

greysides

valtra2 wrote: »

Seriously!!

Very seriously. Take a read of the relevant section of the charter which includes an explanation of why.

greysides

There are licenced effective topical treatments available. On of which is Imaverol.

orm0nd

wrangler wrote: »

A lot of good farmers hang bunches of holly from the roof for ringworm.....cant do any harm.
I've no experience of ringworm, but the last place I saw holly hanging in sheds was Richard Bourns in Galway and he houses thousands of cattle......there must be something in it

male holly , with no berries

whelan2

orm0nd wrote: »

male holly , with no berries

How does it actually work, do you know?

keepalive213

Voodoo magic mon

orm0nd

whelan2 wrote: »

How does it actually work, do you know?

the leaves and the green secondary bark ( dont know the correct term) of holly, ivy, elder , to name just a few were all used to make potions for healing before modern medicine


my ancestors used to make "cures" for different skin ailments including burns.

_Brian

Imravol is great for ringworm, clears it up quickly. Bit pricy.

For slower treatment sudocreme or iodine sprays have worked for us in the past, just slower.

_Brian

I’m not knocking the holly or other “alternatives”.

Reminds me of this.

https://youtu.be/qHNQqCCOoZ8

greysides

Best Holly explanation I've heard is that the fungus that grows on it releases antimycotic substances into the air in a battle against its fellows and this affects the ringworm.

valtra2

tellmeabit wrote: »

Mod note. Read the relevant section of the charter. We're not getting into this type of treatment here. Thanks. GC

What do you mean this type of treatment. About using holly

keepalive213

Someone suggested using a different substance, not holly.
A waste product completely unsuitable for use on animals.
The suggestion, which I won't repeat, was snipped which is why you don't see it.

wrangler

keepalive213 wrote: »

Someone suggested using a different substance, not holly.
A waste product completely unsuitable for use on animals.

Like with orf in sheep I've seen farmers use substances and even implements that are downright cruel thinking they'll cure it

keepalive213

I think a lot of it is down to being mean, not wanting to spend on a proper treatment.

Say my name

greysides wrote: »

Best Holly explanation I've heard is that the fungus that grows on it releases antimycotic substances into the air in a battle against its fellows and this affects the ringworm.

If you can smell a thing, there's a chemical/bacteria/spores being released into the air.

Holly gives off a strong smell as it dries out.

I think ivy and holly have some sort of evergreen chemical/element that's common to both?
Is it iodine and menthol or someother?

Or is it iodide oxidized by vegetable peroxidase, to iodine, which is a strong oxidant able to kill bacteria, fungi and protozoa?

Genghis Cant

valtra2 wrote: »

What do you mean this type of treatment. About using holly

For clarification purposes.
It wasn't in relation to holly. It was in relation to the carcinogen.. Burnt oil. Of which we are precluded from discussing under our charter.

I hope that clears it up.