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International travelling with firearms

  • 09-01-2019 11:01pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭


    Looking into boar hunting and I am wonder what paper work and how I apply to bring my own rifle with me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭cookimonster


    Where are you thinking of going?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭RossiFan08


    Not fully sure yet, more than likely outside the EU. Thinking turkey, hungry or Czech


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭Car99


    RossiFan08 wrote: »
    Not fully sure yet, more than likely outside the EU. Thinking turkey, hungry or Czech

    Hungary and Czech are in the EU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭Wadi14


    1. up to date licence
    2. up to date EU pass.
    3. up to date passport.
    4. Firearms / ammo pass for where your traveling to ( check the country's visitors firearms regulations, for rifle and ammo )
    5. Check with airlines before booking flights, some airlines will not carry firearms, also if they do check their regulations on firearms. So you have everything correct with no snags at check-in.
    6. check location of the armory where your shooting, to confirm storage when you get there.

    I've only been as far as the UK , but Im sure if guys have been boar shooing they can give you more info, on how to proceed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭cookimonster


    Okay I can only tell of my experience with France, I visited with friends and hunted on their lands.

    Firstly I applied for a European Firearms Licence through my local Garda Station. There's no forms for this but you'll need passport photo, firearms detail and country your traveling to.
    Remember some firearms may be prohibited in certain countries.
    In France you need a hunting permit, this gives you a legal reason to have the firearm in the country. I applied for mine on line, your required to confirm that you have a hunting licence and insurance but your not required to provide proof of them.
    I did travel with my Irish Deer Hunting Licence and NARGC insurance.
    I took the ferry so I can't comment on airlines. Irish Ferries don't need any special pre conditions at the time of booking. You are prohibited to bring on board amunition. You inform the check in personal your carrying firearms and confirm they are unloaded, bolt removed or dismantled and locked away in the boot of the vehicle as well as not having ammo. They could inform you that your car keys will be held while sailing or insist the firearms are secured by the crew. You may also be asked to sign a declaration / acknowledgement of terms and conditions. On loading you may be singled out / identified as having a unusual load (I was but nothing came of it and after loading we continued to our cabins as per every other passenger).
    On leaving the ship you just carry on your merry way and then repeat the process on your return journey.


    If you decide to go with a out fitter, they should be able to organise relevant permits.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Sika98k


    Here is a good place to start. Go for a summer sit out in a high seat. Boar are elusive, intelligent creatures. You might see some, if you are very lucky you might get a shot.
    Go with some friends , treat it as a weekend away with the possibility of a shot.
    Direct flights to Budapest with Aer Lingus .

    Www.nagyvadhunting.hu


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Sika98k wrote: »
    Here is a good place to start. Go for a summer sit out in a high seat. Boar are elusive, intelligent creatures. You might see some, if you are very lucky you might get a shot.
    Go with some friends , treat it as a weekend away with the possibility of a shot.
    Direct flights to Budapest with Aer Lingus .

    Www.nagyvadhunting.hu

    I'd recommend this crowd too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Here is a short movie of a gentleman shooting boar in Hungary....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds14AUcdZ-s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Pretty much as said above for the paperwork.
    But you won't be able to do the booking online with carrying firearms.You have to do it via the phone.
    Don't bother with el cheapo airlines like Ryanair, which have a total prohibition of flying with firearms. Not that they are anti-gun, it's to do with their speedy turnaround times, and they don't want the extra paperwork of dealing with unloading restricted cargo.Also regular airlines treat moving firearms as a more routine matter than the bucket shop job airlines,and know the drills.

    Be prepared to pay an extra baggage handling fee, or not, depending on the airline's current staff on the check-in.So keep about 200 euros in reserve for this,it seems to be more going out than coming in.

    GET THE STRONGEST CASE you can afford. Seriously, I've had a Peli case broken between Frankfurt and Dublin by mishandling! This is a mil-spec grade case designed by rough handling, and baggage handlers managed to break a 4inch shard out of the side!

    Make sure that if you are in transit thru some countries that you have their required paperwork as well. Places like Holland require a separate declaration to transfer firearms. The UK is the pits to deal with firearms,at least in my experience.An unprofessional, arrogant bunch in Heathrow.God knows what it will be like post Brexit there, So best avoid the UK and Schipol if possible.

    Check in is pretty straightforward,as they will be expecting you. At most, they will want to inspect the serial numbers and EU firearms passport [Dublin].
    Probably best to ask them if there is a big crowd to do this behind the counter, rather than waving it around the terminal. You get a nice label on your case telling the world what is in this case of course, and you then take it down to the bulk baggage where it is X-rayed and taken over by the security personnel. Germany, you usually wait until a pair of nice female,[usually for me!] coppers show up and inspect your paperwork and escort you down to the bulk baggage.So be prepared to deal with whatever country security requirements. Ireland you lug your guns yourself with no security, bar the check-in desk attendent, Germany you get a police escort, ,and in some cases the poor check in girl has to lug your gun case. Poland last time I was there, the army runs airport security,so you get the army to escort you.

    Once you have collected your normal baggage off the carousel, head for the red channel customs, as they will have your gun there or it will be delivered there for you to collect and process. Usually,you should have a copy of the invite to go shooting wherever in country too to show them why you are here in case you don't speak the native lingo.

    Pretty much it,for the EU travelling with firearms. Just give yourself more than average travel time to get all this done.This is not a 20 min before gate closing time trip.You do need to budget an extra hour for this.
    Bon Voyage.
    G

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭RossiFan08


    Thanks for all the replies guys, massive help. How do I go about applying for the EU pass?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Off to your local Garda station and request one off the FAO.It's for free as well.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



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