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Purposely sowing Brome grass.

  • 09-01-2019 8:06pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭


    Has anyone in this country done this for a grazing sward.

    I think Timmaay had a picture up of a tillage field full of it and I think he mentioned he'd like to graze the stock on it.

    But the benefits would be bulk, deep rooting more drought resistant, supposedly high protein and persistence.

    The risks would be on the tillage side.

    Anyone any experience of it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Has anyone in this country done this for a grazing sward.

    I think Timmaay had a picture up of a tillage field full of it and I think he mentioned he'd like to graze the stock on it.

    But the benefits would be bulk, deep rooting more drought resistant, supposedly high protein and persistence.

    The risks would be on the tillage side.

    Anyone any experience of it?

    Never heard of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Never heard of it

    Well now you have. ;)

    Seemingly came over here with imported machinery from England.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Never heard of it

    Well now you have. ;)

    Seemingly came over here with imported machinery from England.
    Another black mark against the British ww/osr/Bg barrons
    Sterile Broome only hard to control for lads that don't spend a little on herbicide or walk about roguing in June.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    Smooth bromegrass? Perennial grass different to sterile brome


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Smooth bromegrass? Perennial grass different to sterile brome

    Any experience of any of it I suppose.

    There doesn't seem to be any knowledge of using it here only that it's a tillage weed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    Any experience of any of it I suppose.

    There doesn't seem to be any knowledge of using it here only that it's a tillage weed.

    None, smooth bromegrass isn't a tillage weed. You'd see it in ditches.

    Cocksfoot or tall fescue would give all the benefits in your original post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Don't they grow wheat to graze in the Mid-west. Kansas I think. Is broke a cereal? Excuse my ignorance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Don't they grow wheat to graze in the Mid-west. Kansas I think. Is broke a cereal? Excuse my ignorance.
    Brome is a cereal.
    Ryegrass is a cereal too.

    Oats, wheat and barley is grazed in other parts of the world and varieties even bred for grazing.
    It was grazed in this country too to tiller it out as well. There's even a few going at that craic again here now, grazing with sheep and doing away with chemical growth regulators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    Brome is a cereal.
    Ryegrass is a cereal too.

    Oats, wheat and barley is grazed in other parts of the world and varieties even bred for grazing.
    It was grazed in this country too to tiller it out as well. There's even a few going at that craic again here now, grazing with sheep and doing away with chemical growth regulators.

    I do believe oats have the best feed value in the stem, with oaten hay quite sought after in drier climates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I do believe oats have the best feed value in the stem, with oaten hay quite sought after in drier climates.

    https://www.farmtender.com.au/categories/hay-fodder/sub_categories/oaten-hay/listings


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Brome is a cereal.
    Ryegrass is a cereal too.

    Oats, wheat and barley is grazed in other parts of the world and varieties even bred for grazing.
    It was grazed in this country too to tiller it out as well. There's even a few going at that craic again here now, grazing with sheep and doing away with chemical growth regulators.

    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/tillage-focus-no-tillage-and-sheep-controlling-plant-growth-regulation/

    Only saw it grazed before for feeding only not tillering, but i read this article earlier today about it.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Has anyone in this country done this for a grazing sward.

    I think Timmaay had a picture up of a tillage field full of it and I think he mentioned he'd like to graze the stock on it.

    But the benefits would be bulk, deep rooting more drought resistant, supposedly high protein and persistence.

    The risks would be on the tillage side.

    Anyone any experience of it?

    I think the field I was trying to get into was mostly volunteer spring barley, I'd say the farmer got a poor enough crop off it in july, but obviously was a load of nitrogen still in the soil so it grew like crazy when the rain came. He only wanted to graze sheep on it tho. But yep as insurance against drought I'd be well open to growing 10/20 acres of an alternative grazing crop, say take the hit a ton yearly growth over ryegrass in them acres, but for guaranteed growth during drought. However most seem to have some other undesirable characteristics, like very poor cold weather growth, poor wet weather grazing, or potential health issues like bloat etc, so for now carrying over afew more leafy bales and an extra few acre of maize are my best bet.


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