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what bag fertiliser after hen muck?

  • 08-01-2019 10:35pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭


    HI GUYS AFTER SPREADING HEN MUCK LAST BACK END AND NEXT WEEK, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST BAG FERTILISER TO USE FOR GRAZING? AND SILAGE AND WHAT AMOUNT ? THANKS


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    I take it it wasn't ploughed in, I would be very wary of botulism risk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,211 ✭✭✭alps


    What.....hen muck and grazing???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    HI GUYS AFTER SPREADING HEN MUCK LAST BACK END AND NEXT WEEK, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST BAG FERTILISER TO USE FOR GRAZING? AND SILAGE AND WHAT AMOUNT ? THANKS

    Roundup. Plough and reseed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    HI GUYS AFTER SPREADING HEN MUCK LAST BACK END AND NEXT WEEK, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST BAG FERTILISER TO USE FOR GRAZING? AND SILAGE AND WHAT AMOUNT ? THANKS

    Are you serious?

    Plough the muck in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,775 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I thought it had to be ploughed in now ??
    Didn’t think it could be spread and grazed/cut.

    Don’t think it would be worth the risk, look at the disaster in Fermanagh few months ago.
    Know someone in Monaghan who lost 20 cows few years back after buying bales from a neighbor.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Farney Farmer


    _Brian wrote: »
    I thought it had to be ploughed in now ??
    Didn’t think it could be spread and grazed/cut.

    Don’t think it would be worth the risk, look at the disaster in Fermanagh few months ago.
    Know someone in Monaghan who lost 20 cows few years back after buying bales from a neighbor.

    If it’s from laying hens I don’t think it’s as dangerous. They are housed on slats so shouldn’t be any dead birds in it. Broilers are a different story. Complete no no!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭memorystick


    If it’s from laying hens I don’t think it’s as dangerous. They are housed on slats so shouldn’t be any dead birds in it. Broilers are a different story. Complete no no!

    Is this where the bacteria comes from and not the actual scutter itself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Farney Farmer


    Is this where the bacteria comes from and not the actual scutter itself?

    Yes. It’s the toxins in the carcasses that cause the problem as far as I know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    Yes. It’s the toxins in the carcasses that cause the problem as far as I know.

    Every days a school day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Yes. It’s the toxins in the carcasses that cause the problem as far as I know.

    There's no problems with duck slurry, is there?
    (Apart from the smell!)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Farney Farmer


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    There's no problems with duck slurry, is there?
    (Apart from the smell!)

    Don’t think so. But I’m no expert though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Don’t think so. But I’m no expert though.

    Any thing with dead fowl is dangerous, and leaving it without ploughing gives the wildlife an opportunity to spread it to adjoining farms.
    Can't believe this isn't a spoof.....someone yanking our chain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    wrangler wrote: »
    Any thing with dead fowl is dangerous, and leaving it without ploughing gives the wildlife an opportunity to spread it to adjoining farms.
    Can't believe this isn't a spoof.....someone yanking our chain

    well the op has referred to chicken s£$% before , eventhough it was 4 years ago

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=90802076


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Farney Farmer


    wrangler wrote: »
    Any thing with dead fowl is dangerous, and leaving it without ploughing gives the wildlife an opportunity to spread it to adjoining farms.
    Can't believe this isn't a spoof.....someone yanking our chain

    Yes your right, anything with dead fowl is dangerous. I clearly said it was the carcasses that caused the problem not the actual manure/fund/slurry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Attached is a link from DAFM about spreading poultry litter. It states amongst other points that animals should not graze land where poultry litter has been spread and baled silage should not be made.
    https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/farmingsectors/poultry/spreadingofpoultrylitteronland/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,106 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    _Brian wrote: »
    I thought it had to be ploughed in now ??
    Didn’t think it could be spread and grazed/cut.

    Don’t think it would be worth the risk, look at the disaster in Fermanagh few months ago.
    Know someone in Monaghan who lost 20 cows few years back after buying bales from a neighbor.

    What'd be the outcome there?

    The dept would no doubt be dealing with the original farmer who spread the poultry manure on their silage ground and sold the bales.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭Westernrock


    We spread hen manure early spring and again after silage is cut. Doesn’t get ploughing in but it comes in weekly trailer loads out of laying house, they’re on slats over a conveyor belt which brings it out to the trailer so all clean iykwim. We keep it under cover until spreading and have never had any problems.
    Broilers is a completely different story the dead chicks can get trampled into the manure by others before they are seen, this leads to the botulism when the toxins from these rotting carcasses cause a clostridial infection when ingested by cattle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭kingping007


    its been spread on the grass,from battery hens so fresh dung ,just wondering what bag fertiliser to put on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,106 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    its been spread on the grass,from battery hens so fresh dung ,just wondering what bag fertiliser to put on?

    If ye''re 110% sure of no risk of botulism.
    I wouldn't be but each to their own, why do you think you need bag fertilizer at all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭orm0nd




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