jump starter for a tractor

wiggy123

any recommendations folks. where get 1 + at good value

cheers

whelan2

wiggy123 wrote: »

any recommendations folks. where get 1 + at good value

cheers

Did you not get it sorted yet?

kk.man

Be careful if either vehicle has electronics on it when jump starting.

Zimmerframe

kk.man wrote: »

Be careful if either vehicle has electronics on it when jump starting.

If he is looking for a jump starter, I presume there is only one vehicle involved.

alps

Bought one on line from Jebb Tools.. E280...one of the best things we've bought.

Sacrolyte

Zimmerframe wrote: »

kk.man wrote: »

Be careful if either vehicle has electronics on it when jump starting.

If he is looking for a jump starter, I presume there is only one vehicle involved.

Yes. However if you cross electrical polarity you could easily fry the ecu in vehicles and machines with a lot of electronic components.

emaherx

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Yes. However if you cross electrical polarity you could easily fry the ecu in vehicles and machines with a lot of electronic components.

Most modern chargers/ jumpstarters have built in protection against this. However if you can't figure out positive/negative I'd have bigger concern than frying ECU's!

_Brian

When weather gets cold we use one of the intelligent trickle chargers.

When it’s switched on it checks polarity, battery condition before charging if charging is required. Once battery is sufficiently charged it stops charging so no damage to the battery.

Zimmerframe

emaherx wrote: »

Most modern chargers/ jumpstarters have built in protection against this. However if you can't figure out positive/negative I'd have bigger concern than frying ECU's!

Absolutely.

It is actually frightening, how some people treat batteries. I know a few farmers, who "test" the battery by clapping the jump leads together - big spark = good battery.
Worse, I saw a moron a few weeks ago with his face over the battery "testing the spark" with two spanners across the battery poles. I tried to explain what a bad idea that was, but he said it's only 12V. :eek:

Sacrolyte

emaherx wrote: »

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Yes. However if you cross electrical polarity you could easily fry the ecu in vehicles and machines with a lot of electronic components.

Most modern chargers/ jumpstarters have built in protection against this. However if you can't figure out positive/negative I'd have bigger concern than frying ECU's!

Accidents can happen. Folk make mistakes,even the most careful. Be it rushing or fading light or getting distracted. It’s happened me once or twice and before you ask I do know the difference.

emaherx

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Accidents can happen. Folk make mistakes,even the most careful. Be it rushing or fading light or getting distracted. It’s happened me once or twice and before you ask I do know the difference.

If it's happened you more than once.... Then maybe buy yourself a more modern one with the built in reverse polarity protection.

Batteries go flat, sooner or later a jump start will be needed.

Sacrolyte

Tks for the advice but none of my machines have ecu’s so I’m happy with a good set of jump leads for now...

wiggy123

ah its disaster--tractor-6610, battery bought near 2 years back.. is used once a week--not starting for me this last 3 weeks.. charger on it--jump start attempted twice with another tractor--no joy

gctest50

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Yes. However if you cross electrical polarity you could easily fry the ecu in vehicles and machines with a lot of electronic components.

Buy Anderson connector - cheaper than alternator or ECU



https://ie.farnell.com/c/connectors/plug-socket-connectors-components/plug-socket-connectors/prl/results?brand=anderson-power-products&no-of-contacts=2contacts

fastrac94

wiggy123 wrote: »

ah its disaster--tractor-6610, battery bought near 2 years back.. is used once a week--not starting for me this last 3 weeks.. charger on it--jump start attempted twice with another tractor--no joy

Ford or john Deere 6610? Only three things it can be(kinda) battery,battery leads or starter,take out battery and local motor factors or similar will test it for you..if that checks out OK use a jump lead from Negative of battery to one of the starter mounting bolts,this will bypass the earth lead for ya.if still no luck use another jump lead from the postitve of battery to the large terminal on the solenoid of the starter( please please male sure tractor is in neutral etc etc etc before ya try this.any local handy local lad with a multi meter should be able to diagnose the problem for ya in a few mins..nothing worse than something not starting when want it...

MickeyShtyles

wiggy123 wrote: »

ah its disaster--tractor-6610, battery bought near 2 years back.. is used once a week--not starting for me this last 3 weeks.. charger on it--jump start attempted twice with another tractor--no joy

Could you put an isolator on it?
We’ve a Landini 8880 and a forklift that doesn't like the cold and since we fitted isolators they’ve been grand.

fastrac94

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

Could you put an isolator on it?
We’ve a Landini 8880 and a forklift that doesn't like the cold and since we fitted isolators they’ve been grand.

Ye must have something draining the battery's,isolater switches should be in everything and get into a habit if using them,a lot of fires would have been prevented if they were on all machinery..

Muckit

wiggy123 wrote: »

ah its disaster--tractor-6610, battery bought near 2 years back.. is used once a week--not starting for me this last 3 weeks.. charger on it--jump start attempted twice with another tractor--no joy

It's not your battery that's the problem, it's a bad earth l can guarantee you.

Find where the earth lead is clamped/bolted to the chassis. Unbolt the lead and give that spot an almighty sanding/wire brushing. Take it back to shine metal. Do the same with the crimped connection on end of earth cable. Clean up bolt or replace and bolt back on lead. Next loosen the clamps on battery side and clean those up with a light sanding and also battery terminals. Wear gloves to protect your hands if there is any battery acid.

Bet she turns over first whip.

White Clover

Muckit wrote: »

It's not your battery that's the problem, it's a bad earth l can guarantee you.

Find where the earth lead is clamped/bolted to the chassis. Unbolt the lead and give that spot an almighty sanding/wire brushing. Take it back to shine metal. Do the same with the crimped connection on end of earth cable. Clean up bolt or replace and bolt back on lead. Next loosen the clamps on battery side and clean those up with a light sanding and also battery terminals. Wear gloves to protect your hands if there is any battery acid.

Bet she turns over first whip.

Spot on with the advice as usual muckit.
Those ford 6610's could be pigs to start tho. If the starter was any bit lazy, it could be swinging over for a week before she'd fire.

wiggy123

ford sorry

Muckit

White Clover wrote: »

Spot on with the advice as usual muckit.
Those ford 6610's could be pigs to start tho. If the starter was any bit lazy, it could be swinging over for a week before she'd fire.

I could still be as fair out as a lighthouse but it'll cost nothing only a bit of time to try and if not it, it no harm to have done anyways and will only help starter circuit.

A few things that he said would lead me to my conclusion. Battery only 2 years old and we haven't had any hard weather this winter. Also the fact she won't start with a jump. There's bad connection somewhere.

I also had a similar experience last spring. Had myself convinced battery was gone even though she fairly new. Battery tested as ok by local garage. So said I'd rule out connections. Started no hesitation after cleaned up earth lead and connections on both sides.

Zimmerframe

wiggy123 wrote: »

ah its disaster--tractor-6610, battery bought near 2 years back.. is used once a week--not starting for me this last 3 weeks.. charger on it--jump start attempted twice with another tractor--no joy

Not starting ?
Surely there is more info required.
Is the engine turning over slowly or is it turning at all ?
If the engine is turning slowly, and you have decent jump leads then just clamping the negative onto a clean bolt near the starter, should instantly rule in/out a bad earth. If it starts , get cleaning as Muckit suggests and if it don't take out the starter and get it fixed.

wiggy123

no turning over at all

Zimmerframe

wiggy123 wrote: »

no turning over at all

Then like I said negative lead of lump leads to clean bolt on tractor body. Positive lead to + pole on tractor battery. If still no attempt to turn, then solenoid switch or starter is more likely.
To rule out ignition switch, MAKE SURE tractor is not in gear, then on the starter solenoid switch, put a piece of wire between the small spade terminal and the large terminal.
If the engine starts turning it is a lack of power to small terminal, this could be an ignition or safety switch.
If it still won’t turn it’s the starter/solenoid switch.



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