PRSI query

Purple Mountain

This is a hypothetical question I was pondering.
Say if someone is paid weekly and that they are not paid for a certain week (let's pretend unpaid leave when all annual leave is exhausted).
They were run through the payroll every other week of the year bar this week.
Would they be missing a week's PRSI stamp?

namenotavailablE

Yes. If you don't work at least 1 day in the 'PRSI week', you don't get a PRSI stamp for that week.

There are some 'worksharing' examples on this page which illustrate the principle- the main thing is that you need to work at least 1 day and earn €38 in order to get a PRSI stamp for a week.

http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/What-are-the-most-common-worksharing-patterns-and-how-do-the.aspx

Purple Mountain

In the instance of not working a week would the payroll admin run that person as "0" pay that week or just not run at all?
Also, is there then an anomaly with monthly pay?
So say I'm paid each month on the 25th.
But on the second week of month of say February I take unpaid leave.
I'll still be paid on the 25th of February for the end of January and three weeks of Febrary. Granted I'll have a reduced payment but would I then have PRSI cover for the week I'm on unpaid leave?
Thanks to the above poster for the explanation.

allthedoyles

Purple Mountain wrote: »

In the instance of not working a week would the payroll admin run that person as "0" pay that week or just not run at all?
Also, is there then an anomaly with monthly pay?
So say I'm paid each month on the 25th.
But on the second week of month of say February I take unpaid leave.
I'll still be paid on the 25th of February for the end of January and three weeks of Febrary. Granted I'll have a reduced payment but would I then have PRSI cover for the week I'm on unpaid leave?
Thanks to the above poster for the explanation.

In the greater scheme of things , missing one contribution for 2nd week Feb should not matter much .


You can download a history of all contributions paid since you started working by registering at https://services.mywelfare.ie/


This downloaded document will give you the full picture

Purple Mountain

Sorry to revisit this but I have another question.
There are lots of businesses who hire casual staff especially on weekends and especially students.
Say this business ran their payroll for all staff monthly and students were working one or two weekends in a calendar month, why should they get the benefit of 4 to 5 weeks of prsi, the same as say full time or part time staff who work there all or part of every week?

The_Chap

Purple Mountain wrote: »

Sorry to revisit this but I have another question.
There are lots of businesses who hire casual staff especially on weekends and especially students.
Say this business ran their payroll for all staff monthly and students were working one or two weekends in a calendar month, why should they get the benefit of 4 to 5 weeks of prsi, the same as say full time or part time staff who work there all or part of every week?

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/social_insurance_prsi/part_time_work_and_social_insurance_prsi.html

This explains the rules of prsi contribution calculations

Purple Mountain

The_Chap wrote: »

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/social_insurance_prsi/part_time_work_and_social_insurance_prsi.html

This explains the rules of prsi contribution calculations

Thank you I get that but it still doesn't explain to me if a payroll is run monthly, how can revenue distinguish that a person only worked within 2 weeks and not 4 or 5?

The_Chap

Purple Mountain wrote: »

Thank you I get that but it still doesn't explain to me if a payroll is run monthly, how can revenue distinguish that a person only worked within 2 weeks and not 4 or 5?

Most payroll systems allow the insurable weeks number to be edited by the payroll operator to adjust for this

allthedoyles

Prsi is based on a scale. If an employee works one weekend and is paid monthly ,he/she will get one contribution and not 4 or 5 as you suggest.
The type of contribution will depend on earnings as per scale.

Tow

The €38 weekly limit is €165 per month. So if their one weekend's pay is less than 165 they will be on JO for 4/5 insurable weeks and not get Class A benefits. This is assuming the payroll operator does not bother to make to make the necessary adjustments to give 1 Insurable week (stamp) and PRSI thresholds/allowances.

Purple Mountain

Tow wrote: »

The €38 weekly limit is €165 per month. So if their one weekend's pay is less than 165 they will be on JO for 4/5 insurable weeks and not get Class A benefits. This is assuming the payroll operator does not bother to make to make the necessary adjustments to give 1 Insurable week (stamp) and PRSI thresholds/allowances.

Thanks. Now I understand it.