Farmer neighbour's

leoch

Friend has a few farmers beside her and got her house sprayed with slurry it caught the wind when spreading near her house and cattle broke down her wooden fence and into the lawn ...she complained to them but they do nothing should she report them to dept as guards wont do anything

Wildly Boaring

leoch wrote: »

Friend has a few farmers beside her and got her house sprayed with slurry it caught the wind when spreading near her house and cattle broke down her wooden fence and into the lawn ...she complained to them but they do nothing should she report them to dept as guards wont do anything

Lately?

leoch

Slurry a few months ago cattle broke in a few days ago

freedominacup

leoch wrote: »

Slurry a few months ago cattle broke in a few days ago

The slurry should not have happened no excuses. The cattle could be a bit more problematic. What stipulation is in the transfer/sale agreement if any relating to who has responsibility for the stockproof fencing of the site? If it's the site owner there's certainly room for argument as to who has responsibility.

whelan2

We had this a while ago with my sister. The site was fenced with post and rail fencing about 15 years ago. It's not on our land. She is of the idea that the farmer should keep his cattle out, I say she should keep her fence maintained that cattle won't get in.

solerina

whelan2 wrote: »

We had this a while ago with my sister. The site was fenced with post and rail fencing about 15 years ago. It's not on our land. She is of the idea that the farmer should keep his cattle out, I say she should keep her fence maintained that cattle won't get in.

As far as I know it’s up to the herd keeper to maintain his/her land in a stock proof manner, that’s what I was told on an inspection a few years ago.

Needles73

leoch wrote: »

Friend has a few farmers beside her and got her house sprayed with slurry it caught the wind when spreading near her house and cattle broke down her wooden fence and into the lawn ...she complained to them but they do nothing should she report them to dept as guards wont do anything

Did the slurry actually make contact with house ?

Sugarbowl

solerina wrote: »

As far as I know it’s up to the herd keeper to maintain his/her land in a stock proof manner, that’s what I was told on an inspection a few hrs ago.

You had an inspection a few hours ago????

emaherx

whelan2 wrote: »

We had this a while ago with my sister. The site was fenced with post and rail fencing about 15 years ago. It's not on our land. She is of the idea that the farmer should keep his cattle out, I say she should keep her fence maintained that cattle won't get in.

Yes, good fences make good neighbors. Your sisters neighbor should obviously keep his cattle from breaking out, but if it was my house I'd make sure my garden was not an easy target for neighbors cattle either.

ganmo

emaherx wrote: »

Yes, good fences make good neighbors. Your sisters neighbor should obviously keep his cattle from breaking out, but if it was my house I'd make sure my garden was not an easy target for neighbors cattle either.

Normally the house owner cares how the fence looks where farmers only need to keep it stock proof

wrangler

whelan2 wrote: »

We had this a while ago with my sister. The site was fenced with post and rail fencing about 15 years ago. It's not on our land. She is of the idea that the farmer should keep his cattle out, I say she should keep her fence maintained that cattle won't get in.

A farmer has to control their stock, most farm stock is insured now. so there's no reason not to offer to pay for damage

emaherx

ganmo wrote: »

Normally the house owner cares how the fence looks where farmers only need to keep it stock proof

Don't know about that, I see many houses around with fencing that is neither visually appealing nor stockproof, with some depending on wild hedgerows.

whelan2

wrangler wrote: »

A farmer has to control their stock, most farm stock is insured now. so there's no reason not to offer to pay for damage

Yes but most fences only have a certain shelf life. The original fence would be put up by the homeowner, shouldn't they maintain it too?

Mooooo

2 houses in a different corners of one of our field, sheep wire fence original owner put up is the boundary. He built the houses as well. I've put one strand of electric on my side, the cow's can graze under it as far as the boundary fence

Dinzee Conlee

whelan2 wrote: »

Yes but most fences only have a certain shelf life. The original fence would be put up by the homeowner, shouldn't they maintain it too?

They should - but you shouldn’t have to fence to keep stock out of your property...

I’d love if that were the case, being a sheep farmer... twould be everybody else problem to keep em out, rather than me trying to keep em in

whelan2

Mooooo wrote: »

2 houses in a different corners of one of our field, sheep wire fence original owner put up is the boundary. He built the houses as well. I've put one strand of electric on my side, the cow's can graze under it as far as the boundary fence

I put barbed wire up along most of the post and rail for her. I got a phone call from her when I was in casualty with one of the kids that there were cattle in her garden. The fence is rotten. The lad that does milking for me is a fencing contractor, he said it's 50/50 who maintains the fence.

emaherx

whelan2 wrote: »

Yes but most fences only have a certain shelf life. The original fence would be put up by the homeowner, shouldn't they maintain it too?

Being a home owner with some else farming the land around my house I'd be of the opinion that I want to keep their livestock out. But I'm also a farmer who has land around other peoples houses where I want to keep my livestock on my side of the fence. If everyone took responsibility for their boundaries there would be no issue.

Also it is probably part of most farm insurance policies that the farm keeps their land reasonably stock proof.

wrangler

whelan2 wrote: »

Yes but most fences only have a certain shelf life. The original fence would be put up by the homeowner, shouldn't they maintain it too?

Not if they don't have something to fence in, some don't care how their place looks.
Electric fence around those places is the best idea

uck51js9zml2yt

A local farmer has some cows in my back field.
The first thing he did was to put up an electric fence around the boundary.

whelan2

emaherx wrote: »

Being a home owner with some else farming the land around my house I'd be of the opinion that I want to keep their livestock out. But I'm also a farmer who has land around other peoples houses where I want to keep my livestock on my side of the fence. If everyone took responsibility for their boundaries there would be no issue.

Also it is probably part of most farm insurance policies that the farm keeps their land reasonably stock proof.

Would it not be then also part of the homeowners insurance that their boundaries are reasonably stock proof too?

Buford T. Justice XIX

whelan2 wrote: »

I put barbed wire up along most of the post and rail for her. I got a phone call from her when I was in casualty with one of the kids that there were cattle in her garden. The fence is rotten. The lad that does milking for me is a fencing contractor, he said it's 50/50 who maintains the fence.

It's the responsibility of the owner of stock to keep the animals inside their bounds regardless of maintenance, though.



It doesn't have to be pretty or win awards, it just has to keep the animals inside the boundary.

emaherx

whelan2 wrote: »

Would it not be then also part of the homeowners insurance that their boundaries are reasonably stock proof too?

I think not, could be open to correction on that though.

whelan2

emaherx wrote: »

I think not, could be open to correction on that though.

Just wondering is there a stipulation that a house has gates and fences for insurance

Needles73

whelan2 wrote: »

Just wondering is there a stipulation that a house has gates and fences for insurance

No

charolais0153

Is it a farmers job to keep dogs inside of other peoples property?

aaakev

charolais0153 wrote: »

Is it a farmers job to keep dogs inside of other peoples property?

Thats not really the point of the thread..... but no, that would be the dog owners responsibility

Say my name

It's ALWAYS the stock owner that is liable if their stock strays from their land or rented land and causes damage.

There's no ifs nor buts.

Edit: I think that's the point charolais is putting across above.

wrangler

charolais0153 wrote: »

Is it a farmers job to keep dogs inside of other peoples property?

Not really, but it happens that way sometimes :D

Odelay

Be carrots or elephants, it is the owners duty to ensure they don’t wander. It is not up to the householders to ensure others stock doesn’t wander into their property.

arctictree

We run cattle along an L road a few times a year. New houses were built on the road and the ditches pulled out. Now our cattle sometimes go through their gardens when we are driving them. Who's at fault here?

Odelay

arctictree wrote: »

We run cattle along an L road a few times a year. New houses were built on the road and the ditches pulled out. Now our cattle sometimes go through their gardens when we are driving them. Who's at fault here?

Unfortunately as I understand it, it’s the stock owners probelm.

leoch

The slurry drift covered front and side of house the farmers came an looked at it and they said they would power hose the house but never did and stopped answering there calls i think it cost them over 400 to get it cleaned

Odelay

leoch wrote: »

The slurry drift covered front and side of house the farmers came an looked at it and they said they would power hose the house but never did and stopped answering there calls i think it cost them over 400 to get it cleaned

That is just fooking shocking. Absolute ignorance on the part of the farmer if that really did happen.

Say my name

arctictree wrote: »

We run cattle along an L road a few times a year. New houses were built on the road and the ditches pulled out. Now our cattle sometimes go through their gardens when we are driving them. Who's at fault here?

You are.

We used to be at that craic a long time ago but between sticking up temporary strings across people's entrances and gardens and help getting scarcer we had to give it up. Trailer has to do that job now.

whelan2

Odelay wrote: »

That is just fooking shocking. Absolute ignorance on the part of the farmer if that really did happen.

I would have rang the guards, the department and the County Council. That's unreal

leoch

Not making it up odelay these boys are rough men i told her to ring and complain or get advice from the local dvo office

Mortelaro

leoch wrote: »

The slurry drift covered front and side of house the farmers came an looked at it and they said they would power hose the house but never did and stopped answering there calls i think it cost them over 400 to get it cleaned

Take them to the small claims court
Their public liability insurance if they have it will get involved then and your friend will be paid
You don't even need a solicitor for that and the judgement is enforceable

dzer2

Had to be a slurry gun to do that. I think they are illegal now

Odelay

leoch wrote: »

Not making it up odelay these boys are rough men i told her to ring and complain or get advice from the local dvo office

No worries, just stunned that any farmer would do such a thing. It is not normal practice.

BENDYBINN

Am l the only one that’s calling bull**** on this story?

whelan2

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Am l the only one that’s calling bull**** on this story?

Why?

Sheep breeder

leoch wrote: »

The slurry drift covered front and side of house the farmers came an looked at it and they said they would power hose the house but never did and stopped answering there calls i think it cost them over 400 to get it cleaned

How far was the house from the boundary where the slurry was being spread.

Sheep breeder

Old saying good fences make good neighbours, the farmer has responsibilities to keep his stock in and house/land owners to maintain boundary.

leoch

Expain bentybinn why would i waste my or anyone else time on here making up stories

davidk1394

Pure ignorance on the farmers POV to cover a house with slurry. Down here it’s 50/50 between the home owner and farmer to keep the fence stock proof.

Pkiernan

whelan2 wrote: »

Yes but most fences only have a certain shelf life. The original fence would be put up by the homeowner, shouldn't they maintain it too?

By your logic, sheep farmers should make their fences dog proof, and the farmers should be responsible when dogs kill their sheep.

Any livestock that gets the on to my property will be injured.

Pkiernan

arctictree wrote: »

We run cattle along an L road a few times a year. New houses were built on the road and the ditches pulled out. Now our cattle sometimes go through their gardens when we are driving them. Who's at fault here?

You are.

How on earth can you not see that?

Wildly Boaring

Pkiernan wrote: »

You are.

How on earth can you not see that?

Surely a wind up.

Imagine having a brand new garden and some dope leaving cattle across it.

There is no onus on a house owner to provide you with a cattle proof fence on the roadside.

I'd agree that field boundaries are a bit more 50 50.

beertons

I was full sure this was going to be something saucy.

ganmo

Pkiernan wrote: »

By your logic, sheep farmers should make their fences dog proof, and the farmers should be responsible when dogs kill their sheep.

Any livestock that gets the on to my property will be injured.

Control of dogs is a totally separate issue with its own set of laws.