Freesat Bouquet for Northern Ireland

Johnboy1951

Is there such a thing?

I am using tvheadend and although I can locate bouquets for
Scotland
Wales
Isle of Man
Channel Islands

I cannot find one specifically for Northern Ireland.

What is the preferred Freesat bouquet, generally, for use in Ireland?

Fatal Except1on

I would like to know this also!

Johnboy1951

It appears there is not a Freesat bouquet for the NI area, which seems rather odd, considering all the other areas seem to have this.

Oh well back to manual set up I guess.

Johnboy1951

I had hoped that someone might have had a suggestion or two on how to deal with this.

Apparently not, unfortunately .....

Gerry Wicklow

I wouldn't have thought there are many differences only Beeb 1+2 and UTV. I'm assuming you wouldn't be using sd CH4

Johnboy1951

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

I wouldn't have thought there are many differences only Beeb 1+2 and UTV. I'm assuming you wouldn't be using sd CH4

I do list both SD and HD channels .... SD for wireless and external connections.

The channel order and those included in the few bouquets I have looked at were not suitable for this household I have been told

I know little of how existing bouquets are generated and updated (Freesat, Sky ..) ..... am using tvheadend on various Linux releases such as LibreELEC and CoreELEC as well as testing on my desktop Linux.
I have to date arranged things manually (E2 type bouquet) and have had to keep my bouquet updated manually.

Autobouquet is written for E2, but it just might be portable to CE or LE I guess. [EDIT: it should not be difficult to port this to my main Linux install and regularly run it against the bouquet file/s there]
That would (I think) keep a manually created bouquet in E2 format, updated?

I guess what I really need is some means of keeping my own list of channels updated ..... frequency and name changes mostly.

It is long past the time I tidied everything up and categorised channels properly etc etc.

This was never a priority ...... but new year and mostly settled systems in place, the niceties (or lack thereof) are being commented on.

Gerry Wicklow

...and to think we do these things for fun:P Maybe it's just our pills wearing off

Either way I wish you and yours and all Boardies all the very best for 2019

Johnboy1951

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

...and to think we do these things for fun:P Maybe it's just our pills wearing off

Either way I wish you and yours and all Boardies all the very best for 2019

Indeed I must admit to acquiring an itch or two that needs scratching every now and again

Happy new year to all!


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The high horse brigade

You want me to upload my bouquets tomorrow for you?
I've abm set to NI bouquets. Really only the entertainment bouquet changes to suit the region replacing BBCs with the NI region versions and ITV with UTV.

Johnboy1951

The high horse brigade wrote: »

You want me to upload my bouquets tomorrow for you?
I've abm set to NI bouquets. Really only the entertainment bouquet changes to suit the region replacing BBCs with the NI region versions and ITV with UTV.

Thanks, but on reflection I do not believe that will do what I really need.

What I want is to produce my own bouquet and somehow get that to update when channel frequency or name changes.

I had intended to start with a NI bouquet from tvheadend, but now think it would be a waste of time, TBH.

I still have the previous examples you made available for me ..... and have used them to sort out my present bouquet.

The order of channels is quite specific in this household so no auto bouquet will do it seems.

I had expected to find some means ...... even a script ..... that would check the details in my personal bouquet against some other 'official' bouquet and apply changes.
I have found very little in the tvheadend sphere about using bouquets, unlike OA and E2 etc.

So I guess the original intent of this thread should be dropped .....

batistuta9

you could use one of the sky bouquets. disable the channels you don't want & use your own numbering/order

Johnboy1951

batistuta9 wrote: »

you could use one of the sky bouquets. disable the channels you don't want & use your own numbering/order

But it would no longer be the Sky bouquet then and not update frequencies?
or if it was then updates would overwrite the changes I made?

batistuta9

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

But it would no longer be the Sky bouquet then and not update frequencies?
or if it was then updates would overwrite the changes I made?

No, It'll still be linked with the bouquet. You can disable updating channel numbers, names, picons if you want

You'll have a load of disabling to do though at the start.

Only issues are new or changed channels will be enabled by default, so need disabling again.
And if you are changing numbers, if you change to another sky number you'll get multiple EPG grabbers linked to the channel. It's easy enough sorted but just be aware of it
Changing to 1-100 is fine as there's no epg linked to those

Though there is a setting not to map encrypted channels but I've never tried it yet, so that might save all the disabling at the start

Johnboy1951

batistuta9 wrote: »

No, It'll still be linked with the bouquet. You can disable updating channel numbers, names, picons if you want

You'll have a load of disabling to do though at the start.

Only issues are new or changed channels will be enabled by default, so need disabling again.
And if you are changing numbers, if you change to another sky number you'll get multiple EPG grabbers linked to the channel. It's easy enough sorted but just be aware of it
Changing to 1-100 is fine as there's no epg linked to those

Though there is a setting not to map encrypted channels but I've never tried it yet, so that might save all the disabling at the start

Thanks.
It does read like a lot of work to start with

I tried something similar a long time ago but never got any satisfaction ...... I will try again and see if I can get some arrangement whereby I can use a Freesat or Sky bouquet with modifications.

Thanks for the feedback

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Johnboy1951

I enabled
BSkyB Bouquet 4 - DTH Other: Northern Ireland
in preparation of following your instructions.
Unfortunately I am getting nowhere

batistuta9 wrote: »

No, It'll still be linked with the bouquet. You can disable updating channel numbers, names, picons if you want

Where? or How? I am not seeing it presently.

You'll have a load of disabling to do though at the start.

Only issues are new or changed channels will be enabled by default, so need disabling again.
And if you are changing numbers, if you change to another sky number you'll get multiple EPG grabbers linked to the channel. It's easy enough sorted but just be aware of it
Changing to 1-100 is fine as there's no epg linked to those

In that selected bouquet I can only add a number to the preset channel number .... so if I add 1 the first channel from the bouquet is 102.
Not a big deal as I will not use those numbers anyway. The clients list the channels in the order they are presented.

I would want to be able to re-arrange the channels in the order preferred by the boss! Is this possible?

Though there is a setting not to map encrypted channels but I've never tried it yet, so that might save all the disabling at the start

Yes that works as expected, with a few exceptions I guess.

batistuta9

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Where? or How? I am not seeing it presently.

On the EPG grabber tab

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

In that selected bouquet I can only add a number to the preset channel number .... so if I add 1 the first channel from the bouquet is 102.
Not a big deal as I will not use those numbers anyway. The clients list the channels in the order they are presented.


I would want to be able to re-arrange the channels in the order preferred by the boss! Is this possible?

Click in the number of the channel & change it to whatever you want - make sure you're saving this change though

You'll be able to get your own order that way then.

Johnboy1951

batistuta9 wrote: »

On the EPG grabber tab

Ah, on the General settings ..... I already had that disabled.
Thanks.

Click in the number of the channel & change it to whatever you want - make sure you're saving this change though

You'll be able to get your own order that way then.

I thought that most/all of those changes would be overwritten with a bouquet update.

They will be retained?

Thanks again.

Johnboy1951

Well I went through a lot of changes in the bouquet ..... changed numbers to get a bunch of channels in the order required; disabled a huge number of channels so they would not appear on the list.
Rebooted and checked all was ok.

Then I noticed there were no ITV/UTV channels in the listing at all.

While investigating, I disabled the bouquet, to enable another to check there .... etc etc.

On re-enabling the original bouquet the channel list is back to its original.

This is just not going to work for me.

I want something consistent and persistent and not to depend on not disabling a bouquet and re-enabling it again.

So that is out ...... thanks for trying. Appreciate the help.

I will revert to manually editing changes to my own bouquet listing as I notice them or they are complained about.

Not ideal, but much better than losing all of the work with one mouse click!