Rotary parlours cost

MilesPerHour

I saw an advertisement in the farmers journal this week saying you could get a dairymaster rotary parlour from €158,000 inclusive of a tams grant, just sheerly out of curiosity could anyone tell me what one of those entry level rotarys would be like, would they have automatical cluster removers? I know the building itself would cost a lot more but it still sounds as though rotarys have gotten a lot cheaper

Mooooo

Didn't see the add but entry level in most cases is just bare bones. No acrs no retaining bar no auto teat sprayer. On a rotary I'd consider those three minimum if it's to be milked by one person at any stage of the year.

MilesPerHour

Mooooo wrote: »

Didn't see the add but entry level in most cases is just bare bones. No acrs no retaining bar no auto teat sprayer. On a rotary I'd consider those three minimum if it's to be milked by one person at any stage of the year.

I think it might have been the farming independent I saw it in now that I think of it. A rotary parlour without acr’s sounds like a complete nightmare, it doesn’t really sound feasible

Timmaay

MilesPerHour wrote: »

I saw an advertisement in the farmers journal this week saying you could get a dairymaster rotary parlour from €158,000 inclusive of a tams grant, just sheerly out of curiosity could anyone tell me what one of those entry level rotarys would be like, would they have automatical cluster removers? I know the building itself would cost a lot more but it still sounds as though rotarys have gotten a lot cheaper

Marketing bullsh1t , purely in response to Waikato having an ad in the journal afew weeks back with a price tag of 185k or something. As moo said you'll need a decent few extras like acrs etc for the one man. And it's most lightly a 30 unit rotary, the single biggest complaint about rotarys that small are that any sort of high yielding cow will need to go around a 2nd time, so you totally lose the advantage of a rotary in the 1st place.

But like I said in the tagging thread, competition is good definitely ha, just obviously make sure you do your homework with parlours.

MilesPerHour

Timmaay wrote: »

Marketing bullsh1t , purely in response to Waikato having an ad in the journal afew weeks back with a price tag of 185k or something. As moo said you'll need a decent few extras like acrs etc for the one man. And it's most lightly a 30 unit rotary, the single biggest complaint about rotarys that small are that any sort of high yielding cow will need to go around a 2nd time, so you totally lose the advantage of a rotary in the 1st place.

But like I said in the tagging thread, competition is good definitely ha, just obviously make sure you do your homework with parlours.

I didn’t think they’d still be doing rotary parlours as small as 30 units, are 40 units not the smallest on offer by dairymaster nowadays no? A 30 unit rotary sounds like a total waste of time

Donald Trump

Timmaay wrote: »

Marketing bullsh1t , purely in response to Waikato having an ad in the journal afew weeks back with a price tag of 185k or something. As moo said you'll need a decent few extras like acrs etc for the one man. And it's most lightly a 30 unit rotary, the single biggest complaint about rotarys that small are that any sort of high yielding cow will need to go around a 2nd time, so you totally lose the advantage of a rotary in the 1st place.

But like I said in the tagging thread, competition is good definitely ha, just obviously make sure you do your homework with parlours.

Can you not slow them down? Would seem an obvious and simple solution

Brown Podzol

Extras.

A farmer went to town to buy a pickup truck that he saw advertised in the paper for a certain price. After telling the salesman which truck he wanted, they sat down to do the paperwork. The salesman handed the farmer the bill, and the farmer declared, "This isn't the price I saw!" The salesman went on to tell the wise old farmer how he was getting extras such as power brakes, power windows, special tires etc. And that was what took the price up. The farmer needed the truck badly, paid the price and went home.

A few months later, the salesman called up the farmer and said, "My son is in 4-H and he needs a cow for a project. Do you have any for sale?" The farmer said, "Yes, I have a few cows, and I would sell for $1000.00 a piece. Come look at them and take your pick." The salesman said he and his son would be right out. After spending a few hours in the field checking out all the farmer's cows, the two decided on one and the salesman proceeded to write out a check for $1000.00.

The farmer said

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"Now, wait a minute, that's not the final price of the cow. You're getting extras with it and you have to pay for that too." "What extras?" asked the salesman.

Below is the list the farmer gave the salesman for the final price of the cow:

BASIC COW ........................ $1000.00

Two tone exterior.................. $100.00

Extra stomach ....................... $75.00

Product storing equipment .... $60.00

Straw compartment ............... $120.00

4 Spigots @$25 ea ................ $100.00

Leather upholstery ................ $250.00

Dual horns............................. $45.00

Automatic fly swatter............ $38.00

Fertilizer attachment ............. $150.00

Reproductive system ..............$175.00

Food source ...........................$200.00

GRAND TOTAL................. $2313.00

jaymla627

Mooooo wrote: »

Didn't see the add but entry level in most cases is just bare bones. No acrs no retaining bar no auto teat sprayer. On a rotary I'd consider those three minimum if it's to be milked by one person at any stage of the year.

Milked in a bare-bones 60 bale with no auto-teat dip/retention bars our acrs, one person was at cups on the second cups off, if a cow had to go around a second time you just popped a chain behind her, 800 cows going through in two hours....
it’s fantasyland stuff thinking one labor unit will work on a rotary, we used to switch between posts because after a hour cupping your wrists/back would start to get sore, also the person at cups off would pick-up a mastitis cow and draft it off for treatment....
You’d save anywhere from 3500-5000 grand plus a bail going bare-bones over feed to yield auto-retention and acrs

MilesPerHour

Waikato on their website are quoting a 40 unit rotary of mid range spec (aside from the fact it’s no ACR’s) for 94,000 New Zealand dollars which is only €56,000 but it says “milking system only, no platform” - I presume that means that’s just for the actual milking machine equipment. Their rotarys still sound like unbelievable value don’t they?

Mooooo

jaymla627 wrote: »

Milked in a bare-bones 60 bale with no auto-teat dip/retention bars our acrs, one person was at cups on the second cups off, if a cow had to go around a second time you just popped a chain behind her, 800 cows going through in two hours....
it’s fantasyland stuff thinking one labor unit will work on a rotary, we used to switch between posts because after a hour cupping your wrists/back would start to get sore, also the person at cups off would pick-up a mastitis cow and draft it off for treatment....
You’d save anywhere from 3500-5000 grand plus a bail going bare-bones over feed to yield auto-retention and acrs

It's either pay for labour or pay for automation to reduce it. No experience of rotary myself but if they could be ran by 1 person for 7 to 8 months it would allow the second person to do other work around breeding etc.

jaymla627

Mooooo wrote: »

It's either pay for labour or pay for automation to reduce it. No experience of rotary myself but if they could be ran by 1 person for 7 to 8 months it would allow the second person to do other work around breeding etc.

If you have the cow numbers to justify one which I personally think needs to be 400 plus you’ll end up running it with two people most of the time anyways as it’s actually more time efficient, but you need to be going 60 bails plus as anything under your getting two many cows going around a second time, most impressive parlour I ever milked in was a 70 bail westfalia with all the bells and whistles that had a spot rate of 400 high-yielding cows a hour, but 3 people where needed to achieve this two at cups on and the 3 drifting around helping out moving different groups/watching heifers etc