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Is there any brand that has the undoubted best auto gearbox?

  • 15-12-2018 9:38pm
    #1
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,672 ✭✭✭✭


    Reading reviews of different auto boxes, seem to find some saying "X is a great autobox", yet others say its pants.

    What brand of car would be recognised as having the best (most reliable?) automatic box?


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  • #2
    James Bond Junior
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    ZF 8 speed gearbox found in modern BMW's, Jaguars and Mercedes to name a few. Fantastic piece of kit.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission


  • #3
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,672 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Yeah, I know a couple of folks who own Beemers and swear by their auto's.


  • #4
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The eCVT in the Toyota/Lexus hybrids are bombproof. Not massive fun though.


  • #5
    xabi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭xabi


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    The eCVT in the Toyota/Lexus hybrids are bombproof. Not massive fun though.

    Horrible to drive though


  • #6
    Nate--IRL--
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Nate--IRL--


    CVT in the new Civic is pretty good. Feels closer to a traditional Auto than a CVT, in some respects.

    Nate


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  • #7
    James Bond Junior
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Yeah, I know a couple of folks who own Beemers and swear by their auto's.

    We have 4 all told in the family ranging from x16d to x20d to x30d and it suits them all perfectly. Even the 16d is very torquey with it.


  • #8
    Rows Grower
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    James Bond Junior wrote: »
    We have 4 all told in the family ranging from x16d to x20d to x30d and it suits them all perfectly. Even the 16d is very torquey with it.

    We have 5.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #9
    James Bond Junior
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    We have 5.

    So you know how good that box is even better than I do.


  • #10
    Heres Johnny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    I've had 5 auto BMW over the years and gearbox has been great in them all. Even the e46 318i I had was good and that was a 4 speed as far as I remember.
    The e39s were all 5 speed with sports option, the e60 was a 6 speed (preferred the e39 though) and currently have an f10


  • #11
    ShadowHearth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    xabi wrote: »
    Horrible to drive though

    Thats the thing. I really like Lexus is300h or gs300h, but that rubbish gearbox really putting me off. I haven't driven it myself, but I read people give out about it a lot.

    Again, I heard auto in newer Bmw is very good.


    Any opinions on DSG?

    I would like my next car to be auto, so no harm doing research.


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  • #12
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Is this thread about torque converter boxes or dual clutch , I hope one day to have an 8 speed zf as my daily driver, ie an Iveco van.


  • #13
    ShadowHearth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Just watched this. I like his stuff and actually learned quite a bit.

    https://youtu.be/4OSDw-uyP98

    Interesting thoughts on CVT.


  • #14
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    DSG is a very good dual clutch gearbox, it has a very smooth and quick gear change. Requires more maintenance though, I think the box needs an oil and filter change every 60k mile though. Some versions are also less reliable than others and all still use a flywheel.


  • #15
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    We have the 7speed DSG and 8 speed ZF. The DSG is phenomenal, smooth lightening quick changes, a bit dimwitted at lower speeds sometimes, and reverse can be a bit harsh but it is brilliant. It is also the dry version so no oil changes required.

    The ZF8 is also superb, no weaknesses at all. You won't go wrong with either.


  • #16
    Belfast
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    Transmission Comparison: Manual - Auto - Dual Clutch - CVT | Auto Expert John Cadogan | Australia


  • #17
    Technique
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Technique


    ShadowHearth wrote: »
    Thats the thing. I really like Lexus is300h or gs300h, but that rubbish gearbox really putting me off. I haven't driven it myself, but I read people give out about it a lot.

    If you read actual owner reviews, most people are very complimentary about it as regards day to day real world driving.

    A lot of the negative reviews are from professional motoring journalists who have been pushing the car to its limits.


  • #18
    ShadowHearth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Technique wrote: »
    If you read actual owner reviews, most people are very complimentary about it as regards day to day real world driving.

    A lot of the negative reviews are from professional motoring journalists who have been pushing the car to its limits.

    You are quite right. After I watched Ozzy fella, I actually learned a lot more about auto and I would prefer CVT way more now.
    I did originally went towards DSG dual clutch system, but now I am not sure. By the looks of it, buying second hand one is a complete gamble as majority of people wouldn't even know how to treat it. Hence so many of DSGs having issues.


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