Peugeot 3008 v VW T-Roc

PauloMN

Looking at one of the above for other half, she likes both. Looking at nearly new so 2018 models, most are ex-demo. GT Line spec in the 3008 and Design in the T-Roc. We're looking for a petrol manual, 1.2 in the 3008 or 1.0 in the T-Roc. 1.5 in the T-Roc just brings the running costs up unnecessarily for a 2nd car, and we're thinking of future insurance costs for kids etc.. Sport spec in T-Roc which seems closest to GT Line only available in 1.5 unfortunately, but looks like lots of Design spec have additional options added such as LED lights and safety kit.

Any thoughts? Both look sensible purchases to me, she'll ultimately pick the one she prefers to drive as it'll be her driving it mostly - but I prefer the looks and kit of the 3008 personally.

Rear camera would be an option she's like, but at least rear park sensors with visual on the screen. I like the idea of LED headlights given we drive on dark, rural roads. Love the digital dash in the 3008, and pretty sure T-Roc has same. Android connectivity essential, and as many tech safety extras as possible (lane detection, adaptive cruise, collision avoidance, all that sort of stuff).

Mad_maxx

Peugeot.

Other thing is dull as dushwater.

Shefwedfan

If they are both the same spec and similar price then test drive both of them and see which one she prefers

If a few quid in it either way go for the one she likes as well

A few years back test drove the Tiguan and then the Qashqai. The Qashqai was a few quid cheaper and we went Qashqai. The entire life of it we would be going somewhere and just say "I wish we got the Tiguan" hahaha

You could look at C-HR from Toyota as it is hybrid and will reduce fuel costs, again test drive and see

The Hyundai Kona would be a bit cheaper based on the pricing I seen and might also be alternative

MarkN

The C-HR is deceptively small that’s the only thing. Both others will be bigger.

Shefwedfan

MarkN wrote: »

The C-HR is deceptively small that’s the only thing. Both others will be bigger.

The T-ROC is the same size as the C-HR.

mgbgt1978

Tough one. I personally prefer the look of the 3008....but the perceived build-quality of the VW could be a deal breaker come trade-in time.


.....I'd still go with the 3008:)

Wildly Boaring

Sit in a t roc yet?

In my opinion., just not up to usual VW standard inside.

OldMrBrennan83

External looks wise, no contest. The Peugeot is way better looking, and is presumably not coma inducing inside like all VW's. Probably won't last as long as the VW but if you're buying a new 3008 then you'll probably be changing again before it matters anyway.

Mad_maxx

Might as well buy the seat ateca if you don't choose the troc.

PauloMN

Thanks all. She's driven both, but just a short spin in the 3008. Going to see both again tomorrow.

Hyundai/Kia just don't do it for us, I'm sure they are fine cars etc., but I just know we'd regret it if we bought one. Seat, had a new Leon while my own was in for work recently and thought it was nasty inside. That would put me off the Ateca. They just make me think of hire cars when I sit in them.

I'm impressed with the 3008 myself, reviews seem good and it's a refined, comfortable car with more kit than I've ever seen in that class of car. Bit of a concept look about it which I like. The T-Roc I think it nice enough looking - more funky than a regular Golf/Polo - but quite basic in comparison to the 3008 spec-wise.

Anyway the ones we are looking at are roughly the same price so it's not just a case of jumping at the cheapest one. It's definitely whichever she prefers driving and which is more practical - tomorrow's **** weather should be a good test for both!

colm_mcm

T-Roc competes with the Peugeot 2008 and Seat Arona.
the 3008 is in the Tiguan/RAV4 class size-wise.

bazz26

Skoda Karoq is worth a look at too though I think they are a bit bigger than the T-Roc.

Shefwedfan

I would give the C-HR a bash, just to see if you like the hybrid engine

Outside alternative idea would be Kona electric, it’s starting at 38k so massive price jump but if keeping long term the fuel cost might make sense. If Hynundai doesn’t float your boat then no point

My sister in law has the C-HR, she loves it, wouldn’t be for me as I don’t like Toyota, but she says the fuel saving are huge. She got top of range with leather etc

Mad_maxx

bazz26 wrote: »

Skoda Karoq is worth a look at too though I think they are a bit bigger than the T-Roc.

I like the kodiaq ( without being able to explain why) but much prefer the ateca to the karoq ( again can't explain why)

Philb76

2018 Audi Q2 1litre petrol se around 26 grand imported from North

MarkN

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The T-ROC is the same size as the C-HR.

The outside of the car roughly yes, the sloping line of the C-HR makes the interior smaller.

Out of the cars mentioned for level of kit - especially in GT-Line, I'd consider the 3008.

bazz26

The rear area of the CHR feels very claustrophobic due the design of the rear door windows. Quality of some of the materials used in the T-Roc's interior are also below typical par for VW despite the asking price.

Shefwedfan

If you break it down probably comes to the following

VW: Resale value
Toyota: Resale value and better fuel consumption
Peugeot: Better looking and better interior

The big issue with any Peugeot is resale value, it does depend on how long you want to keep and if resale is a big concern

Apart from that, as I originally said pick the one which you like to drive the most

Mad_maxx

Shefwedfan wrote: »

If you break it down probably comes to the following

VW: Resale value
Toyota: Resale value and better fuel consumption
Peugeot: Better looking and better interior

The big issue with any Peugeot is resale value, it does depend on how long you want to keep and if resale is a big concern

Apart from that, as I originally said pick the one which you like to drive the most

The resale value on the 3008 and 5008 will be much better than previous Peugeot, they've really stepped it up.

Shefwedfan

Mad_maxx wrote: »

The resale value on the 3008 and 5008 will be much better than previous Peugeot, they've really stepped it up.

Might be much better than previous Peugeot but it still won't be as good as a VW


The Toyota will hold as well because it is a hybrid


I don't have anything against the Peugeot and I really liked the 5008 before it was released but it wasn't up to size requirements.....but all said it will depreciate higher than the others

ba_barabus

Worth considering with the CHR that it's an auto only in a hybrid. It's a great car but if you have people using it to get a license they will be limited to an auto box only license. This may not matter hugely in the future. Just a consideration.

I drove a new 3008 last week with the 1.5d engine. I can't say I was hugely impressed by it but I've limited SUV experience so it's possibly much better than the opposition.

Shefwedfan

ba_barabus wrote: »

Worth considering with the CHR that it's an auto only in a hybrid. It's a great car but if you have people using it to get a license they will be limited to an auto box only license. This may not matter hugely in the future. Just a consideration.

I drove a new 3008 last week with the 1.5d engine. I can't say I was hugely impressed by it but I've limited SUV experience so it's possibly much better than the opposition.

Manual is going the way of the dodo....


Even tractors are automatic now....

MarkN

The engines in these cars are not there to impress car fans like us. They’re there to transport families and things and have space to do so. I personally thought the 130bhp 5008 needed more poke but the people it is aimed at probably think 130bhp is a rocket.

Also, could be wrong but I think I saw that the doing your test in an auto is or has been done away with.

ba_barabus

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Manual is going the way of the dodo....


Even tractors are automatic now....

And have been for years. It's just a consideration for the OP.

Personally I'd like the Toyota.

ba_barabus

MarkN wrote: »

The engines in these cars are not there to impress car fans like us. They’re there to transport families and things and have space to do so. I personally thought the 130bhp 5008 needed more poke but the people it is aimed at probably think 130bhp is a rocket.

Also, could be wrong but I think I saw that the doing your test in an auto is or has been done away with.

I sat back into my Avensis d4d and immediately thought this is pretty nippy and torquey. First time anyone ever said that about a diesel Avensis

Shefwedfan

ba_barabus wrote: »

And have been for years. It's just a consideration for the OP.

Personally I'd like the Toyota.

More and more people are moving to automatics so I see it as a benefit

I won't buy another manual.



I think the acid test would be price all options as automatic but of course test drive all options


Going to an automatic is a joy if doing lots of short trips in towns/cities

ba_barabus

I'd love another auto tbh

PauloMN

So herself decided on the T-Roc, it was hard to decide between it and the 3008 but in the end the slightly smaller size of the T-Roc and its impressive drive that swung it.

Took it for a spin myself and was impressed I have to say, decent little car, quicker and more pleasant to drive than I expected given the size of the engine. 3 cylinder rasp reminded me a bit of my first car (Daihatsu Charade 1 litre petrol lol) - although a whole lot quieter and more solid than that was. Thought it had the edge on the 3008 actually and felt a bit more refined. I'd be happy to drive it myself and could have a bit of fun on the back roads with it. Interior is a slight let down given it's a VW and a new car, feels solid but plastics on dash a bit hard. Other than that, can't fault it from what I've seen of it - I like the styling, the 17" wheels are perfect for its size, it has enough room for grown-up kids and a decent boot.

On the auto debate - I'll be buying an auto myself next most likely, but we had to consider PauloMN Jnr who is almost at driving age - so manual 1 litre it is!!

Around 4k under list price for a brand new of same spec, so happy enough with deal - might have scraped some more with cash only but we had a trade-in.