Advice on ready made build

blazesoftware

Hi,

Not having ever built a PC before I've used an online site to build one. Could anyone let me know if this is a good option and will allow for upgrade in the future. Its for fortnite types games. Its coming in at €1,664.00 so would like to be sure it worth it so would welcome any advice.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX MB530P RGB GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700 (3.2GHz) 12MB Cache

Motherboard
ASUS® TUF Z370-PLUS GAMING II: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready

Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (2 x 8GB)

Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1070 - DVI, HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
FREE Geforce Fortnite bundle w/ select GTX cards

1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE

1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB INTEL® 760p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (upto 3210MB/sR | 1315MB/sW)

DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED

Memory Card Reader
USB 3.0 EXTERNAL SD/MICRO SD CARD READER

Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY

Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 120 Series High Performance Liquid Cooler

Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING

LED Lighting
50cm Red LED Strip

Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD

USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]

Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

K.O.Kiki

You don't need to spend €1600 for a machine capable of Fortnite :pac:

What's your current monitor?

Honestly, if you want to play stuff like Fortnite you're better off just getting a console imo. €1600 is crazy money to pay just for that.

K.O.Kiki

Deleted User wrote: »

Honestly, if you want to play stuff like Fortnite you're better off just getting a console imo. €1600 is crazy money to pay just for that.

OUT, HERETIC!

But yeah OP you can play Fortnite on a potato. A GTX 1060 / RX 580 system would run this smoothly even at 1440p.

Take a cue from these articles:
http://www.logicalincrements.com/games/build-pc-fortnite-battle-royale
https://www.gamersnexus.net/pc-builds/3404-mid-range-gaming-pc-build-for-fortnite-streaming

OverclockersUK even have a page for Fortnite-capable machines:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-systems/gaming-pc/pcs-by-game/fortnite

@OP

@OP. K.O.Kiki will come up with a build that will blitz Fortnite for probably less than half that price.

K.O.Kiki

I could but OP doesn't seem like they want to build.
So:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-gaming-citizen-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-5-2600-rx-590-8gb-graphics-three-free-games-fs-1aq-og.html#t=c4

Gets the job done for 999.99 euro

blazesoftware

Thanks everyone. I'll clarity a few points. It will be for fortnite but I'd like to future proof for the next year anyway as his taste in games evolve. It seems like most of the games now require more to play them. We have a console but they prefer playing on the PC.

blazesoftware

Thanks for this. It says it won't load the configuration but I do see the CITIZEN GAMING PC maybe as a base model. Price wise its amazing for what seems to be a great machine. Going to look in more detail now.

Out of interest do you build machine on behalf of others?

As for monitors I am looking at a 75hz. Scan have one I was considering. As you can tell I'm pretty clueless so welcome any recommendations. Was planning on 2 of these although using one for gameplay.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/24-iiyama-prolite-e2483hs-b3-gaming-monitor-1920x1080-75hz-1ms-80m1-250cd-m-tilt-speakers-dp-hdmi-vg

I should add that he also streams when he plays games so that seems to slow things down and reduce what I believe is the FPS

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

I could but OP doesn't seem like they want to build.
So:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-gaming-citizen-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-5-2600-rx-590-8gb-graphics-three-free-games-fs-1aq-og.html#t=c4

Gets the job done for 999.99 euro

TerrorFirmer

That one Kiki linked to is perfect for gaming and streaming and it's only about €950 delivered if you add in an SSD. The build in your OP is radically overpowered for what you want. The OCUK one will run even the latest demanding games at high/ultra, Fortnite would run at several hundred fps.

It has a six core CPU which also makes it ideal for streaming while gaming. Plus it comes with two free brand new games

K.O.Kiki

I don't build for others as I simply can't deal with the hassle of after-sales support :pac:

Get the OCUK "Citizen" with these options:
16Gb RAM
Intel 660p 512Gb Solid State Drive

The Ryzen 2600 CPU is 6 cores, 12 threads so (as per GamersNexus link) should be well able for streaming gameplay.

For screens, I'd recommend the LG Electronics 24MK600M-B which is similarly a 1920x1080 75Hz screen but with FreeSync (prevents screen tear) and IPS panel (better colours).

Venom

blazesoftware wrote: »

Thanks for this. It says it won't load the configuration but I do see the CITIZEN GAMING PC maybe as a base model. Price wise its amazing for what seems to be a great machine. Going to look in more detail now.

Out of interest do you build machine on behalf of others?

As for monitors I am looking at a 75hz. Scan have one I was considering. As you can tell I'm pretty clueless so welcome any recommendations. Was planning on 2 of these although using one for gameplay.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/24-iiyama-prolite-e2483hs-b3-gaming-monitor-1920x1080-75hz-1ms-80m1-250cd-m-tilt-speakers-dp-hdmi-vg

I should add that he also streams when he plays games so that seems to slow things down and reduce what I believe is the FPS

The Ryzen build that Kiki linked, will be perfect for your needs for both playing Fortnight, anything due to come out over the next year and streaming. When it comes to gaming PC's and "future proofing", all you need to do is replace the graphics cards in a year or two and you are golden

Cordell

I wouldn't buy a 1070 today, with 2060 coming and expected to beat it in both performance and price. Also, not a fan of AIO liquid coolers, but that is a matter of preference I suppose - but you can get decent air coolers for under 40E.

blazesoftware

Thanks K.O.Kiki and TerrorFirmer

Some final questions and thank you for the help

With that screen do you know if I can connect 2 monitors to the desktop you mentioned. One is for gameplay but would like two running. Out of interest can you have them operate as a single screen or is that down down to the graphics card?

It doesnt seem like there is an additional HDD beyond the SSD so would it not be better to get the 1TB

I need to have it connect to WIFI so assume I'd need to add the adapter as I can't see wifi built in? Is there a Lan connection out of interest?

The Nitro+ graphic card is 9 pounds more which I assume is a slightly better card. Would it be better to get that now at the small additional cost?

K.O.Kiki

There is a 2Tb hard drive included as standard - the SSD is optional.

The graphics card has multiple outputs; you simply plug in your monitors and set orientation in Windows.
For multi-monitor use (1 for gameplay, 1 for whatever else) IIRC you want to set your game to "Borderless Windowed" mode instead of Fullscreen.

WiFi is an option on the OCUK page.
I'd suggest getting a long Ethernet cable or HomePlugs instead though; much better stability for online play.

The Nitro+ is quieter, however the Red Devil cools more effectively.
https://www.computerbase.de/2018-11/amd-radeon-rx-590-test/4/

K.O.Kiki

Actually just realised: the recomended LG screen has HDMI input only.
So if connecting 2 of them, you'd want the Sapphire RX 590 Nitro+ as it has 2x HDMI outputs.

blazesoftware

Thanks a million for your help. You know your stuff. Slight issue. I wanted this for xmas and they can't guarantee delivery. I'll call them again in the morning but assuming they can't any other similar on pcspecialist as they can still guarantee delivery although I will call them too to be sure.

I found this which is a little more than your suggestion but they dont have a discount running like OCUK.

Case COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX K500 RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU) AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six Core CPU (3.4GHz-3.9GHz/19MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard ASUS® PRIME A320M-K: Micro-ATX, AM4, USB 3.0, 6GB/s
Memory (RAM) 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card 8GB AMD RADEON™ RX 590 - HDMI, 3 x DP - DX® 12
1st Storage Drive 500GB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
2nd Storage Drive 1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting 50cm Red LED Strip
Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

or on scan

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/3xs-gamer-amd-ryzen-5-2600x-16gb-ddr4-6gb-evga-gtx-1060-256gb-m2-ssd-2tb-win-10

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Actually just realised: the recomended LG screen has HDMI input only.
So if connecting 2 of them, you'd want the Sapphire RX 590 Nitro+ as it has 2x HDMI outputs.

Inquitus

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Actually just realised: the recomended LG screen has HDMI input only.
So if connecting 2 of them, you'd want the Sapphire RX 590 Nitro+ as it has 2x HDMI outputs.

You can get DVI to HDMI or DP to HDMI adapters no?

K.O.Kiki

Inquitus wrote: »

You can get DVI to HDMI or DP to HDMI adapters no?

DVI adapters are out as they won't support FreeSync.

blazesoftware

So OCUK are out for any pre xmas delivery. Any thoughts on https://www.scan.co.uk/products/3xs-gamer-amd-ryzen-5-2600x-16gb-ddr4-6gb-evga-gtx-1060-256gb-m2-ssd-2tb-win-10

blazesoftware

I would only need 1 monitor to have freesync, the one with the game. Could the other connection be DVI?

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

DVI adapters are out as they won't support FreeSync.

K.O.Kiki

blazesoftware wrote: »

So OCUK are out for any pre xmas delivery. Any thoughts on https://www.scan.co.uk/products/3xs-gamer-amd-ryzen-5-2600x-16gb-ddr4-6gb-evga-gtx-1060-256gb-m2-ssd-2tb-win-10

Had a look around and CyberPower look like they have better customization on their desktops

*edit2:
They have nice offers today too
CYBERPOWERPC Skorpion K1 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (£29)
MSI 27" Optix MAG271C 1ms HD 144Hz Curved Free Sync monitor (£212)

So for £1498 (€1662) you'd get a full system, mouse, keyboard, monitor, wireless headset

Case = Cyberpower ONYXIA Mid-Tower Black Gaming Case w/ USB 3.0, Front & Side Tempered Glass
Case_Lighting = None Selected
Extra_Fans = Maximum Airflow with 3 x 120mm Thermaltake Riing Fans with High Pressure Static LED 1,500 RPM
CPU = AMD Ryzen 5 2600 - 6-Core 3.40GHz, 3.9GHz Turbo - 16MB L3 Cache Processor
Cooler = Cooler Master Seidon 240V High Performance Liquid Cooling system w/ 240mm Radiator *** Extreme OC ***
Motherboard = MSI B450 Tomahawk: ATX w/ RGB, USB 3.1, SATA3, 1x M.2
M2 = None Selected
M2nd = None Selected
SSD = 250 GB Samsung 860 EVO SATA III Gaming MLC Solid State Disk
HDD = 2TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive
RAID = None Selected
RAM = 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4/3000mhz Dual Channel Memory
GPU = AMD Radeon RX 590 8GB - DX12® - VR Ready, HDMI, DVI, DP, 5 Monitor Support
PSU = Corsair TX650M 650W 80+ Gold Semi-Modular Gaming Power Supply
PSU_Braided_Cables = None Selected
Wifi = None Selected
Monitor = MSI 27" Optix MAG271C 1ms HD 144Hz Curved Free Sync Gaming Frameless Anti-Flicker Monitor (Single Monitor)
Mouse = Cooler Master MasterMouse MM530
Keyboard = CYBERPOWERPC Skorpion K1 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard w/ Blue Switches and Programmable RGB LED Lighting
Bluetooth = USB Bluetooth 4.0 Dongle
Cables = Cyberpower EXTRA UK power Cord (C13 - 13A) (1 piece)
Fast Track Service = 5 Business Days (£35) or 3 Business Days (£39)

[Total Price]
PRICE = £1250 ex. VAT

Free items:
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CyberPower Gaming Mouse Pad
AMD Radeon Raise The Game Fully Loaded Game Bundle(RX Vega / 590 for all three games)
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