Price difference of diesel and petrol narrowing?

Xcellor

Usually there is a good 10c or so in the difference between a litre.

Ive seen a few places where its only a couple of cents. Does anyone know the reason why the price difference has narrowed so much?

ELM327

Green has gone up to €1.05 recently too at the local garage. Think everything is going up.

Xcellor

ELM327 wrote: »

Green has gone up to €1.05 recently too at the local garage. Think everything is going up.

Yeah but you'd expect the price to go up proportionally so the margin between petrol and diesel is maintained. I've never seen diesel and petrol being sold for the same price a litre or within 1c difference!

SortingYouOut

I think diesel is slowly creeping up due to emissions tax on the fuel. Not as clean for the environment so they've thrown that on and perhaps the sellers are throwing a few cent on for themselves.

Quackster

ELM327 wrote: »

Green has gone up to €1.05 recently too at the local garage. Think everything is going up.

Petrol at my local has dropped by 10c/l over the past month or so whereas diesel has only dropped by a few cent.

Think it might be to do with the biodiesel content of diesel having to increase to 10% from 1st January, which increases the cost of production of diesel.

ohnonotgmail

Quackster wrote: »

Petrol at my local has dropped by 10c/l over the past month or so whereas diesel has only dropped by a few cent.

Think it might be to do with the biodiesel content of diesel having to increase to 10% from 1st January, which increases the cost of production of diesel.

the biodiesel content is not changing. The source of the biodiesel will change which allows them to claim 10% biodiesel.

ELM327

Feckin biodiesel. Most modern cars are not certified for above 7% bio, yet they want pump fuel to be 10%?? idiocy.

If I ever go back to diesel it will be to an auld agricultural tractor (like my old Peugeot 406) that runs on anything. Modern yokes can't be trusted.

Leonard Hofstadter

Diesel always goes up at this time of the year because of increased demand (e.g. kerosene for heating oil). The gap between petrol and diesel will widen again after Christmas as the months start to get warmer and demand for heating oil goes down.

ohnonotgmail

ELM327 wrote: »

Feckin biodiesel. Most modern cars are not certified for above 7% bio, yet they want pump fuel to be 10%?? idiocy.

If I ever go back to diesel it will be to an auld agricultural tractor (like my old Peugeot 406) that runs on anything. Modern yokes can't be trusted.

the biodiesel content is not changing. we had a long thread on it recently.

munchkin_utd

SortingYouOut wrote: »

I think diesel is slowly creeping up due to emissions tax on the fuel. Not as clean for the environment so they've thrown that on and perhaps the sellers are throwing a few cent on for themselves.

just so people know, diesel is more expensive for the oil companies to buy than petrol, so for it to end up cheaper at the pumps means that petrol is way higher taxed than diesel in Ireland (and Holland and germany and a whole heap of countries who discriminate against petrol car drivers).

in the UK fuel taxes are more equal which means the more expensive diesel is also more expensive at the pumps.

You can see the current pre-tax prices of various fuels across europe here:
http://ec.europa.eu/energy/observatory/reports/latest_prices_without_taxes.pdf

Some countries Diesel is a bit more expensive. in others a lot. Either way, if diesel is cheaper than petrol then its being subsidised to the hilt to bring about that skewing of prices.

Quackster

Leonard Hofstadter wrote: »

Diesel always goes up at this time of the year because of increased demand (e.g. kerosene for heating oil). The gap between petrol and diesel will widen again after Christmas as the months start to get warmer and demand for heating oil goes down.

Seeing the gap narrow from 10c to 2c in a matter of a few weeks is not something I've witnessed in recent winters, not even the really cold ones some years ago.

mikeecho

Diesel costs more during the winter because of higher demand for heating oils.

Petrol costs more during the summer because of higher demand for motoring (mainly in the U.S. )

It happens every year

Pkiernan

Same price as petrol on the Fairyhouse Rd

theguzman

Diesel will get screwed heavily soon as Cargo ships are to ditch burning bunker fuel (imagine sticky tar) and will convert to cleaner refined Diesel. This will drive demand for Diesel and increase prices globally.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-shipping-fuel-sulphur/new-rules-on-ship-emissions-herald-sea-change-for-oil-market-idUSKCN1II0PP

Micky 32

The gap always fluctuates, it's coming down a bit now . I got a fill for 1.33 today.

V8 Interceptor

SortingYouOut wrote: »

I think diesel is slowly creeping up due to emissions tax on the fuel. Not as clean for the environment so they've thrown that on and perhaps the sellers are throwing a few cent on for themselves.

They put a tax on petrol before for that reason and told us diesel was cleaner. So instead of taking the tax back off petrol they've added more to diesel. C*nts.

Dravokivich

I noticed the variance with circle k's in my area and the others followed suit. Thought they were just playing about, to bring their "miles" prices closer in price to their competitors normal fuels.

Foxhole Norman

I've noticed in Innishannon and Bandon that both petrol and diesel were at the exact same price, nice to see