161 Skoda Rapid vs 151 Hyundai i20

Delta_Raven1

Hi guys looking for some advice

Looking at the above cars,

Both are just on the limit of my budget and are garage sales with generous trade in for my own wagon

Both are 1.2 petrol so same tax

The skoda has 85000km on the clock with the i20 having 54000km

The Skoda is a fabulous looking vehicle, i test drove both and note that there was visible exhaust fumes from the Skoda when i was reving and about to pull onto a main road. I dont know is this a warning sign but i didn't notice this on the i20?

The skoda does have a lot more on the clock but its a year newer and has a bigger boot and far better interior with a touch radio and other bits n pieces.

Im so useless at buying cars so im just looking for opinions tbh.

Im leaning towards the Skoda but i dont know is the high clock and fumes a worry.

Thoughts appreciated,

THANK YOU!!

bazz26

ryan91 wrote: »

The Skoda is a fabulous looking vehicle

colm_mcm

The Hyundai would still have at least a year manufacturers warranty left and is the better car here IMO.

Delta_Raven1

colm_mcm wrote: »

The Hyundai would still have at least a year manufacturers warranty left and is the better car here IMO.

The Hyundai has 5 years from new so another 2 years and the Skoda has 3 from new so 1 more for that one,

Out of morbid curiosity, what makes you say the Hyundai is better?

Thank you!

colm_mcm

ryan91 wrote: »

The Hyundai has 5 years from new so another 2 years and the Skoda has 3 from new so 1 more for that one,

Out of morbid curiosity, what makes you say the Hyundai is better?

Thank you!

The Hyundai has a much smoother engine being 4 cylinder vs 3, the 1.2 Hyundai engine has proven to be robust at this stage, where the VW 3 cylinders have a less than sterling reputation.
The Rapid just isn’t a popular car, it sits between the polo and golf size wise, so that never helps, it’s a budget model and apart from its size has no real advantage over cars in the supermini class.

colm_mcm

ryan91 wrote: »

The Hyundai has 5 years from new so another 2 years and the Skoda has 3 from new so 1 more for that one,

Thank you!

Just on this, the Skoda may only have a month left on its manufacturers warranty, max 7 months depending on which month it was registered in.

rn

Drove a 1.0 Skoda petrol while my passat was in for warranty work. Agree it's a lovely little motor and I found very nice drive sub 60kph around town. Extremely practical with lift back.

High mileage for a petrol. But if it's serviced and has 12 months warranty I'd think its a good buy. I'd be negotiating hard on the price given mileage because I think there's only 15k kms on the official Skoda warranty.

My wife had an i30 out when her Skoda was in. Also impressive motor. Without seeing or driving both, on paper I'd go with cheapest.

Dia1988

The Pope had a Skoda Rapid, that might be a good or a bad thing.

http://www.corkindependent.com/news/topics/articles/2018/11/29/4165794-roaming-catholics-/

With both the i20 and Rapid check if they were ever a rental, both cars are rental fodder.

rn

colm_mcm wrote: »

The Hyundai has a much smoother engine being 4 cylinder vs 3, the 1.2 Hyundai engine has proven to be robust at this stage, where the VW 3 cylinders have a less than sterling reputation.
The Rapid just isn’t a popular car, it sits between the polo and golf size wise, so that never helps, it’s a budget model and apart from its size has no real advantage over cars in the supermini class.

With small cars, the boot size and versatility of the Skoda lift back design in Octavia and rapid is a serious advantage in day to day use for most people and especially for families where it's not practical or safe to have lose luggage items in the rear of passenger cabin.

Wildly Boaring

rn wrote: »

Drove a 1.0 Skoda petrol while my passat was in for warranty work. Agree it's a lovely little motor and I found very nice drive sub 60kph around town. Extremely practical with lift back.

High mileage for a petrol. But if it's serviced and has 12 months warranty I'd think its a good buy. I'd be negotiating hard on the price given mileage because I think there's only 15k kms on the official Skoda warranty.

My wife had an i30 out when her Skoda was in. Also impressive motor. Without seeing or driving both, on paper I'd go with cheapest.

Think he's looking at the older 1.2 turbo petrol.

colm_mcm

OP can you post a link to the Skoda you’re looking at?

Toyotafanboi

The 1.2 in a new-ish Rapid would be a 4 cylinder TSI engine, no?

ba_barabus

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

The 1.2 in a new-ish Rapid would be a 4 cylinder TSI engine, no?

We've had 2 1.2TSI engines Skodas and both have been great

Toyotafanboi

Yeah the1.2 TSI engines are pretty much trouble free. Unlike the 1.2 3 cup before them that was made of chocolate.

ba_barabus

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Yeah the1.2 TSI engines are pretty much trouble free. Unlike the 1.2 3 cup before them that was made of chocolate.

Yep.

I've found the earlier 1.2TSI nicer to drive but it does have a few issues if not looked after, mainly concerning the timing chain. Later ones have a belt but don't feel as lively.

OP what Rabid are you looking at? There was some that were nicely finished and others that were very sparten. I wouldn't be paying over the top for either but I would probably consider the i20 the better overall car.

Our latest 1.2tsi doesn't get better than 40mpg in normal driving in a Yeti. I'd strongly advise you to check motor tax rates as the TSI engines aren't as cheap as most other small petrols. Forget engine size as a comparison, it's emissions these days.

Delta_Raven1

colm_mcm wrote: »

OP can you post a link to the Skoda you’re looking at?

This is the one

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-rapid-amb-1-2tsi-90hp-4dr/20413651

Dia1988

Would you not consider an Octavia 1.2
35km Less miles, but year older
Bigger car
Better resale value than the Rapid

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-octavia-octavia-1-2-tsi-ambition/18876405

ba_barabus

ryan91 wrote: »

This is the one

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-rapid-amb-1-2tsi-90hp-4dr/20413651

That's not a bad car in fairness if you're happy with it. The TSI engines I'm used to are the higher power ones but that should be perfectly fine.

It's worth noting that the Rapid is now out of production and isn't being replaced.

Wildly Boaring

OP you buying to hold or sell in couple years?

bazz26

ba_barabus wrote: »

That's not a bad car in fairness if you're happy with it. The TSI engines I'm used to are the higher power ones but that should be perfectly fine.

It's worth noting that the Rapid is now out of production and isn't being replaced.

I thought the Scala is replacing the Rapid?

ba_barabus

bazz26 wrote: »

I thought the Scala is replacing the Rapid?

Sorry, I meant in terms of there not being a Mark 2 Rapid. I reckon the model will be very quickly forgotten about.

Delta_Raven1

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

OP you buying to hold or sell in couple years?

I'll be buying it to hold onto for at least 5 years

bazz26

I'd agree, they really only sold to the rental/leasing companies here like it's sister car the Seat Toledo. With 82000 km on a 161 Rapid there is a good chance it was either a rental or leased car previously.

Delta_Raven1

Dia1988 wrote: »

Would you not consider an Octavia 1.2
35km Less miles, but year older
Bigger car
Better resale value than the Rapid

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-octavia-octavia-1-2-tsi-ambition/18876405

The only reason i wouldn't is i think the Octavia is a bit big for my needs, the Rapid has a big boot but isnt a massive car either

bazz26

OP, would you consider a Nissan Pulsar instead? Not the greatest car but still much better package than the Rapid:

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2150319&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D61%26o%5B%5D%3D526%26f%3D1%26t%3D1%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

Lantus

ryan91 wrote: »

The only reason i wouldn't is i think the Octavia is a bit big for my needs, the Rapid has a big boot but isnt a massive car either

Having had both the octavia is just a tiny bit bigger overall but a really solid car as its the backbone of the skoda range. Retained value a little stronger as well.

That said the rapid was nice.

rn

Mate of mine has the pulsar. 1.2 petrol and it's a very nice motor. I think there's 4 trim packages and he has the third one. It's very well spec'd. They do depreciate heavily, but the Nissan historically more reliable I would think.

Between Octavia and rapid... I'd stick to rapid if you don't have a lot of lugging about of stuff. The rapid has probably 85-90% of the boot space and will be lighter, more nimble and more fuel efficient over the Octavia. Although Octavia will probably retain it's value slightly better, the longer you plan to hold it, the less of an issue depreciation is anyway.

The Octavia we have in our house hold is a magnificent car, but it's the 2.0l tdi version and it's a trim line up from that 1.2 petrol in donegal.