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Biggest Heel turn ever

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  • 29-11-2018 3:14pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 960 ✭✭✭


    Ambrose turning heel the night Reigns announced he had cancer really got me thinking of the biggest heel turns ever.

    For me, it was Hogan joining the nWo. Hogan the biggest name in wrestling joining the Outsiders really did send shockwaves around the world. First time in 15 years for Hogan to turn heel. Maybe because it was pre Internet spoiler days, but no one saw it coming. I'll never forget the crowd's disgust at Hogan and the trash throwing. A few fans actually tried to storm the ring, it truly was the biggest heel turn ever.

    A close second is Austin turning heel at Wrestlemania 17. So many elements added to it, but especially it been in Texas and the Vince factor really made it such a shocking turn.

    Is there any other really big heel turns that occurred that were shocking?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 36,103 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Seth Rollins on the Shield.

    we'd just gotten fully used to cheering on the Shield, and the little fúcker ruined it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 841 ✭✭✭Muff_Daddy


    Big Show’s heel turn, you know the one that time :-)

    Serious answer would be The Rock joining The Nation. Not the most shocking but I would say definitely the most effective heel turn ever as it began the transformation of a fresh meat babyface to the global superstar he is today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Shawn turning on marty then becoming one of the focal points of the business from then on was big back in the day


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,880 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Theres been a few but HBK superkicking Hogan a few years back is a favourite of mine that led to a great promo on Hogan from Michaels

    Edit: one i remember from the 90's i think was Flair on Sting, im not sure but memory says Flair looked for his help against Double A and then turned on him


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Has to be Hogan imo.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 773 ✭✭✭TimesArrow


    Rock turning heel and aligning with Vince at SS 98 was pretty well done

    Hogan joining NWO has to be up there


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    A John Cena heel turn would be another epic one if it ever happens at this stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,556 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    sky88 wrote: »
    Shawn turning on marty then becoming one of the focal points of the business from then on was big back in the day

    I mean it was a good turn but Marty Jannetty shouldn't have tried to escape through the window of the barbershop. Very cowardly move.

    Hogan as much as I dislike him, his heel turn was well done and it was a genuine surprise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,295 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I mean it was a good turn but Marty Jannetty shouldn't have tried to escape through the window of the barbershop. Very cowardly move.

    Only Heenan could deliver that :D

    SCSA turning heel and aligning with Vince


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    TimesArrow wrote:
    Rock turning heel and aligning with Vince at SS 98 was pretty well done

    It was spoiled by recreating Montreal one year later.
    Austin's turn damaged him and I feel he never fully recovered his popularity afterwards, for me it was the first warning sign of a decline in popularity of wrestling overall. It wasn't as bad as Goldberg turning in 2000 but I'd never consider it a success.
    Hogan's one is the best by a considerable margin as it refreshed a stale character who the fans had began to grow tired of even before he turned up in WCW.
    The double switch with Austin & Bret turning was a good heel turn for Hart. Owen turning on Bret was another. Andre turning on Hogan and aligning himself with Heenan.
    Only one I enjoyed this year in WWE was Becky Lynch as it's been the only one they have done anything with properly. Jury is still out for me with Bryan and especially Ambrose.
    Gedo turning on Okada was fantastic also even Yoshi Hashi faceplanting couldn't harm it. If you build something over years it is so much more impactful when it ends.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭Sirsok


    Not the best but i always loved Eddies turn in Tajiri, slaming him into the car window, just before Eddie sky rocketed.

    Thinking about Eddie, he really was something else, an amazing performer. Except that night at One Night Stand, I was really looking forward to that match, and it was a turd in an other wise great show.

    Heyman as survivor series turning in Brock was great also!


  • Registered Users Posts: 960 ✭✭✭Officer999


    A John Cena heel turn would be another epic one if it ever happens at this stage.

    Yeah I was thinking a Cena heel turn a few years ago would have been as big as Hogans in 1996. But that ship has sailed now


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    For me it was Andre turning on Hogan. As a kid, big cuddly Andre suddenly being menacing was quite scary.


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,295 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    SlickRic wrote: »
    Seth Rollins on the Shield.

    we'd just gotten fully used to cheering on the Shield, and the little fúcker ruined it.

    I think the fact he was also the least likely at that time to turn made it more surprising


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭seandotcomm


    Not sure it counts as a proper heel turn but I loved Rock vs Hogan at WM X8 when the crowd booed the hell out of the Rock and he just went with it and played a heel in the match


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    Not sure if it counts but Kane's fake out only to betray his brother at RR98 made me so angry. At least during the attitude era when I was a kid there was no heel turn that made me angrier.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,179 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Has to be Hulk Hogan at Bash at the Beach 96.

    Kicked off the rise of wcw and the whole 'monday night war' thing.

    On a side note watching Hogan heel promos from 97/98 are very cringe worthy these days. That said late 90s wrestling, imo despite its faults, is still the best era of wrestling ever.

    That said, like anything else, if anyone was to go back and watch it with fresh eyes they probably wouldn't get it. But if you watched it at the time... boy what a time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    The best villians are the ones who think they're right or that others are wronging them

    I loved Batista's turn on Rey Mysterio in 2009, turning on him because Rey kept breaking up Batista's pins in a Fatal 4 Way match

    "I'm gonna rip your head off", and Batista destroying the man literally half his size


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I mean it was a good turn but Marty Jannetty shouldn't have tried to escape through the window of the barbershop. Very cowardly move.

    Hogan as much as I dislike him, his heel turn was well done and it was a genuine surprise.

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    Modern day, it's hard to overlook Ciampa's turn on Johnny. Amazingly well built, all the way from the Cruiserweight match at the CWC.

    Soft spot as well for Bret's turn vs Austin at Mania, look at the gold that was produced from that. Both Austin & Bret came out of that situation bigger stars, and this elevated Austin to an even higher stage


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,888 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    This is brutal and no way would they get away with this sort of thing today

    https://youtu.be/Pj0wr_bwm1Y

    https://youtu.be/iGEQcUWFDoI


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