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Help with garage convertion...

  • 26-11-2018 2:18pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭


    We recently moved into a new build with a separate brick built garage in the back garden. I'm planning on converting this into a room. Myself. I'd greatly appreciate any help advice and guidance you can offer/provide.

    The garage building itself is a "semi-d" under a pitched roof. The neighbors garage is connect to ours and it looks like a small house with a standard roof - it you catch my meaning.

    The floor is concrete laid over a moisture barrier (I can see the plastic when the garage door is open). There's a plaster inside ceiling on the inside, and while there is no access to the "attic", the builder told me the internal brick wall dividing my garage to my neighbors runs to the apex of the roof (separating the two garages).

    I'll be using it as a workshop/home brewery for the next few years, and following that, a playroom for older kids as they need their own space (in say 5-8 years). My plan (due to finances) is to do this in stages as i save money.

    So, the first thing I'm thinking of doing is putting in a floor, and lining the walls.
    To do this, I've a bucket load of pallet boards that have been power hosed clean and I was toying with the idea of using them to clad the partitioning wall, and to use as a wooden floor.

    I was going to spend some money and line the exterior walls with insulated plaster board sheets.

    I appreciate that until I fill in the garage door, it'll be cold and super drafty, but I'm ok with that for the moment.

    So to clad the partition wall, I was going to screw in small batons running vertically (from ceiling to floor), insulate between the batons, and then hammer away with the pallet boards (horizontally). Job done!
    First question: Seems simple enough, am I missing anything?

    Then for the floor, I was going to get some floor insulation, lay that down, and then float the pallet board floor.
    Second question: As it's not "tongue & groove" am I going to be getting in way over my head here? Bearing in mind, I'm not too concerned about the "look" of the floor and it's going to be rustic and battered looking anyway, so maybe I can just screw the bejaysus out of it to the concrete?

    For the exterior walls I understand that I can just pin the insulated plaster board to the wall easily enough, and then either try to skim a finish over it myself, or I've a friend who can help me with that.

    Finally, is there an order I need to consider when doing the above?

    Thanks for taking the time to read...


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 35 Car expert


    Why not convert it to an apartment and air bnb it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Car expert wrote: »
    Why not convert it to an apartment and air bnb it.
    Could do, but I dont want to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭JimmyMW


    Car expert wrote: »
    Why not convert it to an apartment and air bnb it.

    Would require planning, which would have no chance of being granted, also would need to comply with current building regs etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    get access to attic and add about 16" of insulation.

    http://www.environ.ie/search/archived/current/category/housing/type/publications?query=acceptable%20construction%20details
    https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/publication-of-sr-542014-code-of-practice

    are you happy that pallets are not treated with some preservative that is not designed to be used indoor?

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    get access to attic and add about 16" of insulation.

    http://www.environ.ie/search/archived/current/category/housing/type/publications?query=acceptable%20construction%20details
    https://www.nsai.ie/about/news/publication-of-sr-542014-code-of-practice

    are you happy that pallets are not treated with some preservative that is not designed to be used indoor?
    No. I'm not.

    ....but, it's a temp floor for the next 5 years say, just while I'm using it as a workstation.In the longer term, I'll put in a better floor.


    Could they really be that bad?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Its a lot of work for a temp floor.
    The sawdust from pallets is not great either?

    If you are doing a temp floor, do wall insulation first and let it down to concrete.

    Whats the plan for heating/sockets etc
    Maybe create a services void between insulation and plaster board

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Its a lot of work for a temp floor.
    Thats probably very true considering how cheap I could get a laminate. It's was more a project for myself, and I was thinking it would look better. But I may reconsider.


    Presently there's no heating, and 2 sockets out there. I was planning on running all the wiring in trunking over the plaster board. (see: https://sg.carousell.com/p/designer-minimalist-industrial-electrical-black-cover-trunking-115098023/ ). This means I can plow ahead and come back to the electrics when I get more cash together. For heat, it's surprising warm with the freezer and PC out there now, but I have an electric heater which works perfect.


    Long term I want to have this on a separate fuse/breaker circuit and have more power out there, but this'll be a bigger job getting an electrician out, digging up the patio etc..).


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Fix PIR insulation directly to the walls.
    Fix 50x50 Barton’s through the insulation to the walls.
    Then the plasterboard to the battens.

    Now you have a 2” service zone and your insulation envelope remains untouched for pipes, cables and sockets.


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