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Zetor stuck in gear

  • 25-11-2018 9:48pm
    #1
    mickdw
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    Zetor 6211 stuck in top gear. Drives with gear lever in neutral once clutch is let up. We have had similar before and managed to free it at the line of bolts on top of the gearbox with a screw driver.
    This time I've taken the gear lever off but one of the selector bars can not be moved back to the neutral position.
    Any trick to getting the pressure off it to move it.
    Sticking in gear is very common on these but this seems to be a little more stuck than before.


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  • #2
    White Clover
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    mickdw wrote: »
    Zetor 6211 stuck in top gear. Drives with gear lever in neutral once clutch is let up. We have had similar before and managed to free it at the line of bolts on top of the gearbox with a screw driver.
    This time I've taken the gear lever off but one of the selector bars can not be moved back to the neutral position.
    Any trick to getting the pressure off it to move it.
    Sticking in gear is very common on these but this seems to be a little more stuck than before.

    Can you get someone to rock back and forward the tractor while you try to release it? That era of zetor very rarely if ever got stuck in gear.


  • #3
    mickdw
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    White Clover wrote: »
    Can you get someone to rock back and forward the tractor while you try to release it? That era of zetor very rarely if ever got stuck in gear.

    Have tried a bit of that but no good so far.
    I don't know how you say it's not an issue with this era of zetor. Ours has been doing it for 10 years, neighbours one does it too and plenty online about them too.


  • #4
    Dakota Dan
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    Dexta’s were a hoor for getting stuck in gear, any wrong move and they got stuck.


  • #5
    mickdw
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    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    Dexta’s were a hoor for getting stuck in gear, any wrong move and they got stuck.

    If a new driver gets into ours, especially young lads, it's almost guaranteed to get stuck.


  • #6
    Dakota Dan
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    mickdw wrote: »
    If a new driver gets into ours, especially young lads, it's almost guaranteed to get stuck.

    I’m sure I heard someone say that you need to weld a piece of metal onto one of the selectors to solve the problem.


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  • #7
    White Clover
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    mickdw wrote: »
    Have tried a bit of that but no good so far.
    I don't know how you say it's not an issue with this era of zetor. Ours has been doing it for 10 years, neighbours one does it too and plenty online about them too.

    Older models with dash mounted gear lever were more likely to do it when they got older. Patience when changing gear is the only solution. Have a 7211 here with a good few years and it never got stuck in gear.

    I suppose your next course of action is to take the top off of the gearbox and reset the selector with a pry bar.


  • #8
    mickdw
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    White Clover wrote: »
    Older models with dash mounted gear lever were more likely to do it when they got older. Patience when changing gear is the only solution. Have a 7211 here with a good few years and it never got stuck in gear.

    I suppose your next course of action is to take the top off of the gearbox and reset the selector with a pry bar.
    It's not locked solid in 2 gears which can happen too so I'm wondering if there is anything to be said for gently pulling it backwards a few inches while in gear and switched off hoping that it would take the strain off and allow selector to move? Or similarly turn engine backwards by hand while in gear.


  • #9
    White Clover
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    mickdw wrote: »
    It's not locked solid in 2 gears which can happen too so I'm wondering if there is anything to be said for gently pulling it backwards a few inches while in gear and switched off hoping that it would take the strain off and allow selector to move? Or similarly turn engine backwards by hand while in gear.

    If you reckon rocking it wasn't relieving the pressure it may be an option. Also try touching the starter button for a second...making sure theres isn't anyone or anything in front of you. Can you get neutral by putting the high low lever in neutral.


  • #10
    mickdw
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    White Clover wrote: »
    If you reckon rocking it wasn't relieving the pressure it may be an option. Also try touching the starter button for a second...making sure theres isn't anyone or anything in front of you. Can you get neutral by putting the high low lever in neutral.

    The high low lever is certainly moving freely.


  • #11
    orm0nd
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    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    Dexta’s were a hoor for getting stuck in gear, any wrong move and they got stuck.


    that was usually wear on the end of the gear sticks , I built up a few with a cast iron rod and filed them back down,


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  • #12
    patsy_mccabe
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    Are you sure it's actually stuck in gear? In my old David Brown, the tip of the gear stick used to pop out of the 'C' shaped cup of the selector forks. I welded on at 4 pts on the ball at the tip and it hasn't popped out since and that was well over 10 years ago.


  • #13
    Centrepassage
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    7745 s were prone to doing this. Zetor brought out a little attachment you welded to the top of the selectors to solve the problem. If you took it out of first gear too fast it would skip back into reverse. Should be able to flick it back with the high/low in neutral. Mechanic told me one time to take out the shim under the gear stick to solve the problem .


  • #14
    mickdw
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    Got the issue solved. Took top off transmission and took the selector forks out. One gear ring had jammed where 3 little 'pawls' had escaped slightly from underneath it and wouldnt allow it to move back.
    From what I saw, it would never be fixed without opening the top as we did.


  • #15
    9935452
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    Centrepassage wrote: »
    7745 s were prone to doing this. Zetor brought out a little attachment you welded to the top of the selectors to solve the problem. If you took it out of first gear too fast it would skip back into reverse. Should be able to flick it back with the high/low in neutral. Mechanic told me one time to take out the shim under the gear stick to solve the problem .
    Centrepassage wrote: »
    7745 s were prone to doing this. Zetor brought out a little attachment you welded to the top of the selectors to solve the problem. If you took it out of first gear too fast it would skip back into reverse. Should be able to flick it back with the high/low in neutral. Mechanic told me one time to take out the shim under the gear stick to solve the problem .
    Ive seen that happen with a new mercedes truck. The story we were told at the time was the driver was reversing, clutched and pushed the gearstick into neutral and she went into top gear.
    End result was it was a gearbox out job to get it back into neutral


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