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  • 24-11-2018 10:31am
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    WishUWereHere
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    Beware!!!

    https://www.kildarenow.com/news/2-speed-vans-deployed-m7-monday-onwards-deter-speeding-motorists/259026

    Often wonder how the people we have here managing these roadworks have a job. That reference to the truck going though the central barrier - I have driven all over Europe in an artic & where lanes on Mways were reduced in width or less lanes, NO vehicle over a certain weight were allowed out of the inside lane. I was passed during this past week by an expressway BE bus.

    Crazy stuff here!:eek:


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    Isambard
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    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    Beware!!!

    https://www.kildarenow.com/news/2-speed-vans-deployed-m7-monday-onwards-deter-speeding-motorists/259026

    Often wonder how the people we have here managing these roadworks have a job. That reference to the truck going though the central barrier - I have driven all over Europe in an artic & where lanes on Mways were reduced in width or less lanes, NO vehicle over a certain weight were allowed out of the inside lane. I was passed during this past week by an expressway BE bus.

    Crazy stuff here!:eek:

    no mention was made of where the barrier the truck crashed through was, may not have been the central barrier, which in any case is some distance from the live lanes due to the roadworks. Trucks are permitted to use the outer lane on the N7. Coaches are permitted to use any lane ,even on a motorway.


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    dashcamdanny
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    Speed is the issue here. Plain and simple.

    If all these expert drivers would slow down to the 60 limit, they might stop wrecking the place every time they smash their way through the traffic and barriers.

    That traffic jam was torture to sit through. I really hope hard sanctions are brought upon the driver that caused it. And any other driver caught speeding in the area


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    theguzman
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    I just drove it recently I switched on cruise control at 59km/h, wasn't taking any chances and I assumed the speed limit was taken already. What is the real disgrace here is the length of time its taking and pathetic progress being made. This would be opened long ago in China.


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    Isambard
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    theguzman wrote: »
    I just drove it recently I switched on cruise control at 59km/h, wasn't taking any chances and I assumed the speed limit was taken already. What is the real disgrace here is the length of time its taking and pathetic progress being made. This would be opened long ago in China.

    in all probability you were doing about 55/56 then. I know my speedo is 4% inaccurate or thereabouts and set my cc accordingly.


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    WishUWereHere
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    Isambard wrote: »
    no mention was made of where the barrier the truck crashed through was, may not have been the central barrier, which in any case is some distance from the live lanes due to the roadworks. Trucks are permitted to use the outer lane on the N7. Coaches are permitted to use any lane ,even on a motorway.

    As far as I know, no country other than Ireland permits vehicles over a certain weight to drive in an outside lane where roadworks are ongoing. And remember the lanes on the N/M 7 are reduced in width too.


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    theguzman
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    Isambard wrote: »
    in all probability you were doing about 55/56 then. I know my speedo is 4% inaccurate or thereabouts and set my cc accordingly.


    Since the speed vans came along I just stick to what it says on the needle as I can't stick the psychological torture of watching the letter box and not knowing, if the Guards catch you then at least you know where you stand as they will give you a bollocking and you know the fine is coming. I would vote for Hitler himself if he vowed to get rid of those Speed Vans. Fixed Speed Camera's would be a far more equitable solution and you could have list of them in your GPS or Phone, but you never know where the van is going to be once you roam outside your typical home county etc.


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    magicbastarder
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    theguzman wrote: »
    I would vote for Hitler himself if he vowed to get rid of those Speed Vans. Fixed Speed Camera's would be a far more equitable solution and you could have list of them in your GPS or Phone, but you never know where the van is going to be once you roam outside your typical home county etc.
    eh... surely that's the point?
    what's the point in having cameras to discourage people speeding if people know exactly where they are?
    all you'd be doing is discouraging them from speeding in very specific spots. you may as well not have them at all in that scenario.
    it'd be like the police or security announcing they're going to protect 6 specific bank branches in the city centre as a way of discouraging bank robbers from robbing from *any* bank branch.


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    theguzman
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    Because speed is only one factor and the punishment is not correlating to the fine. Three years on your licence is a disgrace, why not tar and feather a man altogether. Private Enterprise should not be involved in any aspect of policing or law enforcement like this.


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    WishUWereHere
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    theguzman wrote: »
    Because speed is only one factor and the punishment is not correlating to the fine. Three years on your licence is a disgrace, why not tar and feather a man altogether. Private Enterprise should not be involved in any aspect of policing or law enforcement like this.

    Although, even if it was a Garda van You would still get 3 points if caught speeding.


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    Grandeeod
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    Came through it northbound today. No change despite the media reporting of a clampdown. But watching a BE coach speed past me at what had to be 100kph makes you despair.


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    WishUWereHere
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    Grandeeod wrote: »
    Came through it northbound today. No change despite the media reporting of a clampdown. But watching a BE coach speed past me at what had to be 100kph makes you despair.

    That clampdown is only commencing from Monday 26th...if the reports are accurate.

    As I mention below, I was behind an artic when that BE passed on the outside. The BE driver had to brake as He/She tried to pass the artic...crazy driving!


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    theguzman
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    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    Although, even if it was a Garda van You would still get 3 points if caught speeding.


    That would be alot more acceptable to me, because they are the Gardai; a force I have respect for and who are motivated to enforce the law, not profit from it.


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    magicbastarder
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    i love it when speeding motorists get moralistic about who actually caught them breaking the law.


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    cython
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    theguzman wrote: »
    That would be alot more acceptable to me, because they are the Gardai; a force I have respect for and who are motivated to enforce the law, not profit from it.

    To both of those points, if GoSafe catch someone speeding the fine is still issued by Gardai as far as I understand, as they review the pictures, etc. GoSafe is little more than an agent specifically authorised and contracted to record the acts of speeding. Secondly, since GoSafe are paid a flat rate and the state keep fine revenue suggestions of profiting from the law are typically overblown. Or should the Gardai be banned from using external vendors completely?


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    wheres me jumpa
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    WishUWereHere wrote: »
    Beware!!!

    https://www.kildarenow.com/news/2-speed-vans-deployed-m7-monday-onwards-deter-speeding-motorists/259026

    Often wonder how the people we have here managing these roadworks have a job. That reference to the truck going though the central barrier - I have driven all over Europe in an artic & where lanes on Mways were reduced in width or less lanes, NO vehicle over a certain weight were allowed out of the inside lane. I was passed during this past week by an expressway BE bus.

    Crazy stuff here!:eek:

    Funny you should mention that. I was alongside a BE bus through the roadworks late last week. Constantly and aggressively changing lanes.


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    WishUWereHere
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    wheres me jumpa wrote: »
    Funny you should mention that. I was alongside a BE bus through the roadworks late last week. Constantly and aggressively changing lanes.

    I was on the southbound carriageway last night going home. Was passed by a BE x12, the bus pulled in to the inside lane after passing and then an artic came past me, but he couldn't get past the bus...kept trying, kept braking.

    Madness!!!


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