Practically of EU travel without passport?

lalababa

According to Google, apparently you don't need a passport or national ID card to travel within eu borders.But in the next sentence it says to make sure you have one or the other.
According to Ryanair's own rules you need passport or Nat.ID card to even go to the UK. Driving license won't do.

What experiences have ye had?
Do you need a passport/Nat.ID card wherever you go to the airport in the EU? Example Ire to canaries /Spain. Ire to UK?
Is it more lax on the ferry to UK? How about ferry UK to Holland/France.
As an aside:Years ago I was arriving back to Ire on ferry from UK and there was some official asking us were we Irish as we walked past, and all we had to do was say yes and keep walking, found it very funny.

ted1

Ireland isn't in the Schengen area, you need a passport..

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/schengen-visa-countries-list/

_Brian

Definitely not possible, to amd from the UK but not other EU countries.

coylemj

Flying Ireland to the UK: Ryanair require a passport, other airlines will accept passport or driving licence, Aer Lingus will accept virtually anything with a photo.

Ferry Ireland to the UK: still very lax as per your earlier experience. You're unlikely to be asked for ID, let alone a passport. But I would definitely bring something with my photo on it.... driving licence, Irish govt. PSC card or passport card.

Ferry UK to Holland/France: Passport required. Otherwise there wouldn't be a huge number of would-be immigrants stuck in Calais.

Flying Ireland to mainland Europe (incl. Canaries): you will definitely have to show your passport when you arrive (because Ireland is a non-Schengen country) and if you don't have one, the airline that brought you there will be fined and will have to take you home again so when checking in and/or boarding in Dublin, your airline will demand to see a passport.

Travelling between Schengen countries, i.e. moving between most countries in mainland Europe: you do not need a passport, whether travelling overland or flying.

Vic_08

coylemj wrote: »

Ferry Ireland to the UK: still very lax as per your earlier experience. You're unlikely to be asked for ID, let alone a passport. But I would definitely bring something with my photo on it.... driving licence, Irish govt. PSC card or passport card.

That is not correct.

UKBA regularly conduct checks on arrivals at UK ports, in my experience at Holyhead it would be roughly 2/3 of the times they have been there.

On the Irish side it is lower, maybe 1/4 but in both cases they seem to target busier periods.

Under His Eye

Also within the Schengen area there can be checks. Austria has permanent checks between itself and Hungary. Germany has checks on the roads.

I have been checked on trains travelling from Holland to Germany.

bigar

coylemj wrote: »

Travelling between Schengen countries, i.e. moving between most countries in mainland Europe: you do not need a passport, whether travelling overland or flying.

Although you do not need to show your ID when crossing internal Schengen borders, there are countries where at all times you need to have an ID with you (e.g. Belgium). When you are stopped at a check point or are involved in an accident, the local police will ask you to provide ID documents. Also, in some countries (e.g. Spain), hotels need to ask you for an ID.

In short: travelling anywhere without a passport or ID card (for the countries that have it) is not recommended.

CelticRambler

As an Irish citizen, you need a passport to enter any part of the Schengen area. Once in, strictly speaking, you don't need any form of ID to cross the internal borders, but as has been mentionned above, there are many countries where you are required to be able to produce state-issued ID on request. On a practical level, you're quite likely to be asked to produce ID in many other situations (e.g. buying a train ticket, checking into a hotel, buying something worth more than 50€, etc.