Potentially leaving a job

frankythefish

I am unhappy with my boss as my recent payrise was less than expected. I have mentioned to him the possibility that i might leave as I expected more. If my boss now decides to fire me after I discussed potentially leaving, would this be illegal on his behalf? I am permanent and 18 months in job. I am worried I have left door open for him to fire me.

Samuel T. Cogley

Speak to a solicitor first thing on Monday.

frankythefish

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Speak to a solicitor first thing on Monday.

Thanks Sam, I think you spot on. I knew the moment I opened my mouth re leaving if no rise that things would likely get messy with employer. Emailed local solicitor just now and explained the situation. I ll let the solicitors battle it out

Samuel T. Cogley

frankythefish wrote: »

Thanks Sam, I think you spot on. I knew the moment I opened my mouth re leaving if no rise that things would likely get messy with employer. Emailed local solicitor just now and explained the situation. I ll let the solicitors battle it out

It shows you're serious and you'll get good advice. The cost is usually a lot lower than people expect as well. Worst comes to worst you can negotiate a payment and a good reference.

blindside88

Has your employer mentioned firing you? If not you may be jumping the gun regarding solicitor. A good lesson to learn going forward, never say “I’ll leave unless....” or you’re really putting yourself on the back foot.
1) if your employer wants rid all they have to do is not give into your demands and you’ll leave
2) if you don’t then leave they know that you can be walked over and you won’t do anything

The only upside is if you do leave there are plenty of jobs in almost all industries at the moment best of luck whatever you do

Eire Go Brach

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Speak to a solicitor first thing on Monday.

Why would he do that? His boss has not mentioned anything about being fired. Be silly if he did.
You did not get what you thought you would and done right expessing your not happy. You just have to see how it plays out. Ultimately if your not happy and not getting the pay rise now. I’d recommend moving on.

AndrewJRenko

frankythefish wrote: »

Thanks Sam, I think you spot on. I knew the moment I opened my mouth re leaving if no rise that things would likely get messy with employer. Emailed local solicitor just now and explained the situation. I ll let the solicitors battle it out

I'm not sure it is a great idea to involve a lawyer at this stage. From what you've told us, your employer hasn't done anything wrong so far.

Samuel T. Cogley

Yes sorry I read it as he had been fired. No need to involve a solicitor at this point but, if it looks like it's going down that track get one on the QT for some advice.

doolox

....does not necessarily mean that any action will be taken although it is an expensive way to get labour law advice but then the stakes are high if you make a mistake.

You now need to decide whether to try and mend bridges with your relationship with your boss or to walk away.

The most effective employees keep things to themselves and make moves to another employment only when it suits them and on good terms if possible with their former boss.

It is ideal but not 100% needed to have an option to fallback to a previous employment if the alternative does not work out.

Some bosses will not rehire previous employees out of sheer spite but these are never worth working for anyways. An effective boss will judge the worth of any employee on his own terms and will rehire good employees if conditions allow.

The present day labour scarcities make this more possible that never before in Ireland. Full employment has its benefits.

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Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

It shows you're serious and you'll get good advice.

Get a solicitor involved and the OP may as well plan to leave ASAP. Nobody wants an employee whose default position is to go legal, especially over a non event.

Why, oh why, OP would you get your solicitor to 'battle ut out?'. Your employer has done nothing. You shot your mouth off. He has since probably forgotten about it. Why do you think your job is in jepordy anyway, did you hand in your notice? FFS you could steal something and you couldnt get fired for it. Calm down, deep breaths.

Hoboo

No need for a solicitor, waste of money. Sit tight, see what happens. He'll either make your life hell and you'll have to leave (constructive dismissal case), he'll fire you for nothing (unfair dismissal case), or he'll do nothing. I'd imagine, if he has any sense, he'll ensure he knows everything about your work, clients, pipeline, etc, start feeling out the market for a replacement, and be ready for the inevitable.

Has he explained why the amount was less then you expected? Underperformance etc? Were you given a guarantee or was there set amounts as part of a development plan discussed and agreed? Or was it just a figure pulled out of nowhere?

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Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Yes sorry I read it as he had been fired. No need to involve a solicitor at this point but, if it looks like it's going down that track get one on the QT for some advice.

Saw this post after my above post.