Night latch lock

2012paddy2012

Hi
I want to get a lock that when door closes over it will fit into a receiver on the wall opposite where I will fit the lock on the door.
At moment I have to insert key into the door when I leave the house or when I come in. It would be handier if when door closed over it would lock securely ( without having to lock it unless I want to )

My issue is , it’s just plasterboard and it’s very tight there ( see photo) there is no Baten there I could chop out and fit a receiver ....I want receiver to be secure when fitted .... any ideas ... thanks

Paddy

Calahonda52

take a picture further back and turn it right way around

2012paddy2012

Calahonda52 wrote: »

take a picture further back and turn it right way around

Added new post couldn’t add photos love your opinion going to buy latch key lock in morning thks
Paddy

listermint

If you want the door to permently lock when you close behind you. Then simply replace the existing barrel lock on the door to something that allows for that.

some models require key closure to lock some actually just lock on shut

speak to a locksmith for details.

2012paddy2012

listermint wrote: »

If you want the door to permently lock when you close behind you. Then simply replace the existing barrel lock on the door to something that allows for that.

some models require key closure to lock some actually just lock on shut

speak to a locksmith for details.

Wishful thinking. Those front doors which are very popular have a multi locking system .. which require a key.
There is a long metal strip running up along the center of the door.

Only option to close the door without a key is a latch ( night latch) when leaving.

All I really want is advice re fitting a receiver to a plasterboard wall.

Am thinking along lines of cutting out a piece , fitting a piece of hardwood behind the plaster board , re filling and subsequently fit receiver securely then...
Any advice around this idea would be appreciated

10pennymixup

I get what you're saying, it would be convenient.

But I don't think it would be very secure. The lock screwed in three place to pvc, the receiver in two places to wood through half inch(?) plasterboard.

I'm not saying one good kick would put it in, but three might.

I'd also be checking my insurance just in case. And leaving a spare key hidden outside in case of accidental door closures.

listermint

Ok i think the best option is just to lock the door behind you with the key.

This is what i do at home. it becomes automatic after a while

2012paddy2012

10pennymixup wrote: »

I get what you're saying, it would be convenient.

But I don't think it would be very secure. The lock screwed in three place to pvc, the receiver in two places to wood through half inch(?) plasterboard.

I'm not saying one good kick would put it in, but three might.

I'd also be checking my insurance just in case. And leaving a spare key hidden outside in case of accidental door closures.

Ah think I’ll leave it , thks all

Quackster

All you need to do to achieve this is to replace the existing door handles with door handles that don't open the door from the outside (you'll pick them up in any good DIY store). This is what I have on my door. So even when the door is unlocked on the inside (ie the multi-point locking is disengaged), the door can't be opened from the outside without the key.

As the previous poster pointed out, this is not as secure as having the multi-point locking engaged but it means I don't have to keep the door locked all the time while I'm at home (except when I go to bed).

For added safety (ease of escape from fire etc), I
would also strongly recommend having a cylinder lock with a thumb-turn on the inside.

2012paddy2012

Quackster wrote: »

All you need to do to achieve this is to replace the existing door handles with door handles that don't open the door from the outside (you'll pick them up in any good DIY store). This is what I have on my door. So even when the door is unlocked on the inside (ie the multi-point locking is disengaged), the door can't be opened from the outside without the key.

As the previous poster pointed out, this is not as secure as having the multi-point locking engaged but it means I don't have to keep the door locked all the time while I'm at home (except when I go to bed).

For added safety (ease of escape from fire etc), I
would also strongly recommend having a cylinder lock with a thumb-turn on the inside.

Thanks
I only put a asus 90 euro anti break barrel in front door yesterday!
I also put a thumb handle one on the back door ... not sure if I changed them , would they fit , I will try that’s a great idea ... if that worked , when someone goes out , would I not still have to twist the thumb part inside front door to lock i think I would , so if I follow you , I can. Take the front door outside handle off?
Replace it with something ( any link?)
So that no one can open the door as no handle obviously 🙄 how will the door be locked exactly !? Sorry for all questions , this seems like an ideal solution for me
Thks

listermint

Quackster wrote: »

All you need to do to achieve this is to replace the existing door handles with door handles that don't open the door from the outside (you'll pick them up in any good DIY store). This is what I have on my door. So even when the door is unlocked on the inside (ie the multi-point locking is disengaged), the door can't be opened from the outside without the key.

As the previous poster pointed out, this is not as secure as having the multi-point locking engaged but it means I don't have to keep the door locked all the time while I'm at home (except when I go to bed).

For added safety (ease of escape from fire etc), I
would also strongly recommend having a cylinder lock with a thumb-turn on the inside.

Genius! Hadnt thought of that. I was alluding to it but didnt quite get there

2012paddy2012

listermint wrote: »

Genius! Hadnt thought of that. I was alluding to it but didnt quite get there

Well 10 out of 10 for effort ! Well done

Quackster

A bit more info here: https://www.windowanddoorparts.ie/door-handles-ireland-door-handle-replacement-guide/

So you're looking to replace your lever/lever door handle with a lever/pad handle. While the lock mechanism in my door is compatible with both lever/lever and lever/pad, reading this seems to suggest that not all lock mechanisms may be so you might need to check that first.

Another thing, as the bar from the outside pad engages with the lock mechanism at a different location to the lever, you'll need to drill a new hole in the outside of the door for this.

2012paddy2012

Quackster wrote: »

A bit more info here: https://www.windowanddoorparts.ie/door-handles-ireland-door-handle-replacement-guide/

So you're looking to replace your lever/lever door handle with a lever/pad handle. While the lock mechanism in my door is compatible with both lever/lever and lever/pad, reading this seems to suggest that not all lock mechanisms may be so you might need to check that first.

Another thing, as the bar from the outside pad engages with the lock mechanism at a different location to the lever, you'll need to drill a new hole in the outside of the door for this.

Ok. Thks.