Independent.ie playing down Maurice McCabe saga?

jetsonx

Are Independent newspapers just a mouthpiece for the Gardai or have they a cosy arrangement for "inside" stories.

What should have been headlines this morning about the latest McCabe revelations - the Independent.ie seems to have another agenda along the lines of "Lets publish a few token lines about the McCabe saga but then lets drown it out with out with some other more positive articles". The latter themed on what a great job the Gardai are doing.

Token few lines published 12:00AM

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mccabe-knew-he-was-finished-in-force-after-disgusting-comment-by-callinan-37522728.html


Published 2:30AM this morning.

Under heading of " Gardai get handheld devices to detect uninsured drivers..."

https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/gardai-get-handheld-devices-to-detect-uninsured-drivers-at-side-of-the-road-37522620.html


Published 2:30AM this morning

Exact same article under a different heading of "Roadside checks and rogue driver hotlist..."

https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/gardai-get-handheld-devices-to-detect-uninsured-drivers-at-side-of-the-road-37522620.html


Honestly, this is sort of sh!t that goes on with newspapers in China and North Korea.

Raheem Euro

Also the suspension of John Barrett recently - who spoke out against garda authorities in the Dail Committees. Should have met with public outrage and wide coverage and opprobrium in the media. Was a footnote in passing.

RobbieMD

jetsonx wrote: »

Are Independent newspapers just a mouthpiece for the Gardai or have they a cosy arrangement for "inside" stories.

What should have been headlines this morning about the latest McCabe revelations - the Independent.ie seems to have another agenda along the lines of "Lets publish a few token lines about the McCabe saga but then lets drown it out with out with some other more positive articles". The latter themed on what a great job the Gardai are doing.

Token few lines published 12:00AM

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mccabe-knew-he-was-finished-in-force-after-disgusting-comment-by-callinan-37522728.html


Published 2:30AM this morning.

Under heading of " Gardai get handheld devices to detect uninsured drivers..."

https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/gardai-get-handheld-devices-to-detect-uninsured-drivers-at-side-of-the-road-37522620.html


Published 2:30AM this morning

Exact same article under a different heading of "Roadside checks and rogue driver hotlist..."

https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/gardai-get-handheld-devices-to-detect-uninsured-drivers-at-side-of-the-road-37522620.html


Honestly, this is sort of sh!t that goes on with newspapers in China and North Korea.

I think you'll find that the Indo isn't particularly liked by the Gardai.

JMNolan

I actually don't know if I am getting more cynical/clued in or if the news media is changing but I see a lot of biases these days in all media. It's scary really because it's hard to get an impartial viewpoint on current events and I used to depend on certain tv stations/papers/radio stations but it's very different now.

twinytwo

JMNolan wrote: »

I actually don't know if I am getting more cynical/clued in or if the news media is changing but I see a lot of biases these days in all media. It's scary really because it's hard to get an impartial viewpoint on current events and I used to depend on certain tv stations/papers/radio stations but it's very different now.

This is what happens when more and more of the mainstream media is controlled by a small number of people.

Floppybits

JMNolan wrote: »

I actually don't know if I am getting more cynical/clued in or if the news media is changing but I see a lot of biases these days in all media. It's scary really because it's hard to get an impartial viewpoint on current events and I used to depend on certain tv stations/papers/radio stations but it's very different now.

It seems to me that the media all have vested interests. There are no independent journalists left.

Raheem Euro

RobbieMD wrote: »

I think you'll find that the Indo isn't particularly liked by the Gardai.

You would need to differentiate between the affinity of Management of the Gardai and that of certain individuals in the front line.

A long time ago the Independent printed some pieces about Tania McCabe which some individual gardai didn't like. I don't know if that holds up after this time or if the same staff are even in the newspaper, or those gardai are still serving. In the current day the garda authorities and the political establishment would enjoy a comfortable simbiance with Denis O'Brien's various media organs.

Fann Linn

twinytwo wrote: »

This is what happens when more and more of the mainstream media is controlled by a small number of people.

Its not just private mainstream media. Just look at the coverage by our public broadcaster of the current and ongoing traveller feud in Louth.

they are more preoccupied with Rosanna Davidson finding a penny while shopping, Amy Huberman taking a slash or the cat fight between Rory and Twink

Edgware

Raheem Euro wrote: »

Also the suspension of John Barrett recently - who spoke out against garda authorities in the Dail Committees. Should have met with public outrage and wide coverage and opprobrium in the media. Was a footnote in passing.

Barrett didnt come out well from the Charleton Tribunal so it might be a bit early to be storming the Winter Palace on his behalf

Edgware

Michael Brave Telegraph wrote: »

they are more preoccupied with Rosanna Davidson finding a penny while shopping, Amy Huberman taking a slash or the cat fight between Rory and Twink

Well it is coming to Panto season and they havent Al Porter to promote this year

Laois_Man

jetsonx wrote: »

the latest McCabe revelations

Sorry did I miss something?

I watched the "Whistle blowers" documentary but I haven't seen any new revelations!

Fann Linn

Laois_Man wrote: »

Sorry did I miss something?

I watched the "Whistle blowers" documentary but I haven't seen any new revelations!

There was so many it was hard to keep up.

goat2

jetsonx wrote: »

Are Independent newspapers just a mouthpiece for the Gardai or have they a cosy arrangement for "inside" stories.

What should have been headlines this morning about the latest McCabe revelations - the Independent.ie seems to have another agenda along the lines of "Lets publish a few token lines about the McCabe saga but then lets drown it out with out with some other more positive articles". The latter themed on what a great job the Gardai are doing.

Token few lines published 12:00AM

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mccabe-knew-he-was-finished-in-force-after-disgusting-comment-by-callinan-37522728.html


Published 2:30AM this morning.

Under heading of " Gardai get handheld devices to detect uninsured drivers..."

https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/gardai-get-handheld-devices-to-detect-uninsured-drivers-at-side-of-the-road-37522620.html


Published 2:30AM this morning

Exact same article under a different heading of "Roadside checks and rogue driver hotlist..."

https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/gardai-get-handheld-devices-to-detect-uninsured-drivers-at-side-of-the-road-37522620.html


Honestly, this is sort of sh!t that goes on with newspapers in China and North Korea.

Garda McCabe has gone through hell, I watched last night and looking forward to tonights programme on this case,
Fair dues to him, he had nothing to lie about, just said as he saw it, and they really put him through hell,
His wife was his strength at most times, as she said that people they were friends with turned their backs on them,
Lets hope that those that did lie about all of this and try to dirty his name, pay the price

Laois_Man

Fann Linn wrote: »

There was so many it was hard to keep up.

Like what?

smurgen

Oh i'd love to have saved some of the articles from the time the slurs against mccabe were going.if i remember correctly the indo published lots of details of allegations against unnamed whistleblower when the dogs on the street knew who they were pointing the finger at. Their journalist paul williams met with mccabes accuser and put it into an article.mccabe should sue.

Fann Linn

Laois_Man wrote: »

Like what?

Breath tests and emding up wih child abuse allegations.
I thought you watched the documentary.
Bye.

Laois_Man

Fann Linn wrote: »

Breath tests and emding up wih child abuse allegations.
I thought you watched the documentary.
Bye.

It's been in the news for years!
Have you been under a rock?

Fann Linn

Laois_Man wrote: »

It's been in the news for years!
Have you been under a rock?

I never said it wasn't.

Laois_Man

Fann Linn wrote: »

There was so many it was hard to keep up.

Laois_Man wrote: »

Like what?

Fann Linn wrote: »

Breath tests and emding up wih child abuse allegations.
I thought you watched the documentary.
Bye.

But those are the "new revelations" you cited!

Fann Linn

Laois_Man wrote: »

But those are the "new revelations" you cited!

I didn't say they were new.

Laois_Man

Laois_Man wrote: »

Sorry did I miss something?

I watched the "Whistle blowers" documentary but I haven't seen any new revelations!

Fann Linn wrote: »

There was so many it was hard to keep up.

Eh?

Fann Linn

Laois_Man wrote: »

Eh?

No mention of 'new' by me. I just highlighted the amount.

Raheem Euro

Edgware wrote: »

Barrett didnt come out well from the Charleton Tribunal so it might be a bit early to be storming the Winter Palace on his behalf

Yes Charleton said he was 'imaginative' in giving evidence. The first outsider or civilian to serve in upper Garda management. Who contradicted the official narrative.

Interesting that Charleton went after Barrett and Taylor. Two individuals who broke camp with Garda management and spoke out of school. Publicly revealing information on the campaign against McCabe and millions of euro that went sky west and crooked in Templemore.

No one else in the Garda was criticised. No one suspended. No one disciplined. Or criminally charged. Callinan, N O Sullivan, members in Bailieboro, members involved in cancelling penalty points, members who "lost" mobile phones and laptops, those involved in the missing money in Templemore. A tribunal or show trial to misdirect public attention from the fact that no action was taken against anyone in the substantive issues that McCabe raised or in the subsequent witch hunt against him. No one has been brought to task.

Just Barrett.

McCabe did incredibly well to survive. Although his life has probably been destroyed.

The lesson is don't bother speaking out against the corrupt, incestuous, Irish establishment.

goat2

No it is not new revelations, but you get a background also into how it was handled, and his family and private life while he was going under such extreme stress,
He lost friends as did his wife, work colleagues and nearly his sanity.
I don't know anyone that would get through that,
And he went through it because he told the truth,
I have been caught speeding and had points on my licence, and I do expect every other citizen should be treated same as me.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Raheem Euro wrote: »

Also the suspension of John Barrett recently - who spoke out against garda authorities in the Dail Committees. Should have met with public outrage and wide coverage and opprobrium in the media. Was a footnote in passing.

Why should it have been met with outrage???? He was suspended for reasons other than the tribunal or his part in it so why would it deserve additional media coverage? You obviously know more than the media have reported so why don’t you tell us why he was suspended and why it should attract outrage?

Raheem Euro

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

He was suspended for reasons other than the tribunal or his part in it

Yes, and pigs fly.

jetsonx

Here are two puff pieces from the Independent on that scumbag Dave Taylor. Anybody know the connection he is has with the Independent?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/strange-case-of-supt-taylor-and-the-garda-leak-that-never-happened-35462919.html

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/reinstated-whistleblower-just-wants-some-normality-35452768.html

Independent Newspapers, and in particular the Sunday Independent, has long been the cesspit of the Irish media, and therefore of the Irish establishment generally. It goes back to at least their demonisation of the workers in the 1913 Lockout (on behalf of their then boss, the leader of the employers in the Lockout, William Martin Murphy) and continued every day of the 40 years it was under the control of that now bankrupt oligarch Anthony O'Reilly.

It has no redeeming feature. Absolutely none. It has undermined democracy at every turn, pushed its cliques and their agenda and always sneered and demeaned the most marginalised in our society. The extraordinary campaign against John Hume in the early 1990s by the Harris/Fanning mob should never, ever be forgotten. Bullies, thugs. Anybody who financially supports that company by buying its rags is an especially obtuse and doltish member of the human race.

ChikiChiki

Did they not dismiss Gemma O Doherty for having a PULSE file?

jetsonx

Deleted User wrote: »

Independent Newspapers, and in particular the Sunday Independent, has long been the cesspit of the Irish media, and therefore of the Irish establishment generally. It goes back to at least their demonisation of the workers in the 1913 Lockout (on behalf of their then boss, the leader of the employers in the Lockout, William Martin Murphy) and continued every day of the 40 years it was under the control of that now bankrupt oligarch Anthony O'Reilly.

It has no redeeming feature. Absolutely none. It has undermined democracy at every turn, pushed its cliques and their agenda and always sneered and demeaned the most marginalised in our society. The extraordinary campaign against John Hume in the early 1990s by the Harris/Fanning mob should never, ever be forgotten. Bullies, thugs. Anybody who financially supports that company by buying its rags is an especially obtuse and doltish member of the human race.

I think Ireland is a great country but one thing which truly depresses seeing "middle" Ireland on a Sunday in public places read this rag.