ICT teaching opportunites

slingerz

is ICT becoming more of a necessary teaching subject in schools? new short courses for JC include it, i would expect for it to be included for the future changes to LC.

i am looking at doing the PME where my subjects would be Business & ICT with JC Accounting. Can i do additional modules via the open university to qualify to teach accounting to LC as well?

doc_17

slingerz wrote: »

is ICT becoming more of a necessary teaching subject in schools? new short courses for JC include it, i would expect for it to be included for the future changes to LC.

i am looking at doing the PME where my subjects would be Business & ICT with JC Accounting. Can i do additional modules via the open university to qualify to teach accounting to LC as well?

There is no subject called JC accounting, just JC Business. You can check your degree on the Teaching Council’s website to determine what subjects it qualifies you to teach. Computer Science is being rolled at LC out but it will only be offered in a handful of schools

slingerz

doc_17 wrote: »

There is no subject called JC accounting, just JC Business. You can check your degree on the Teaching Council’s website to determine what subjects it qualifies you to teach. Computer Science is being rolled at LC out but it will only be offered in a handful of schools

My understanding for Computer Science is that it’s being piloted in a handful but the expectation is for it to be rolled out in the coming years.

TheValeyard

slingerz wrote: »

My understanding for Computer Science is that it’s being piloted in a handful but the expectation is for it to be rolled out in the coming years.

It will be a specialist subject. Not many jobs will be available or existing ICT teachers will probably commence training to upgrade teaching skill.

doc_17

slingerz wrote: »

My understanding for Computer Science is that it’s being piloted in a handful but the expectation is for it to be rolled out in the coming years.

It’s in phase 1, not a pilot. It won’t be offered in every school as the demand won’t be there. It’ll be a niche subject, maybe along the lines of Applied Maths or slightly more doing it. If it was on a school it’d only be 5/6 hours per week and that’s if it’s on in 5th and 6th year. Maths would be a good subject to add.

slingerz

doc_17 wrote: »

It’s in phase 1, not a pilot. It won’t be offered in every school as the demand won’t be there. It’ll be a niche subject, maybe along the lines of Applied Maths or slightly more doing it. If it was on a school it’d only be 5/6 hours per week and that’s if it’s on in 5th and 6th year. Maths would be a good subject to add.

Not sure I have the credits for Maths to be honest. Think I am a long way short of the maths requirement. Accounting the most feasible subject for me to add. Do you just contact the teaching council to see what modules in accounting you should undertake in order to qualify?

trihead

It's in 40 schools at the moment(LCCS) -started just this September. It will be open to all schools in 2 years time - but as someone has said not every school will apply - depends if they have teacher I say. One thing to note -ICT is not computer science and also not coding ( which is the short course at Jct) - just so you are aware going into PME.

slingerz

trihead wrote: »

It's in 40 schools at the moment(LCCS) -started just this September. It will be open to all schools in 2 years time - but as someone has said not every school will apply - depends if they have teacher I say. One thing to note -ICT is not computer science and also not coding ( which is the short course at Jct) - just so you are aware going into PME.

What covers computer science and coding then? I was sure it was under ICT.

I am short some credits for accounting, is it possible I can complete some modules to increase my credits and would open university modules suffice?

deiseindublin

It's a very heavy syllabus for LC. Would want to lighten up a bit if they want uptake to increase.

TheValeyard

deiseindublin wrote: »

It's a very heavy syllabus for LC. Would want to lighten up a bit if they want uptake to increase.

Does seem to be very heavily loaded. Which would not encourage a high uptake. Students far more likely to stick with options known to maximize their points.

trihead

slingerz wrote: »

What covers computer science and coding then? I was sure it was under ICT.

I am short some credits for accounting, is it possible I can complete some modules to increase my credits and would open university modules suffice?

Here is the spec for reference -
https://nccacurriculum.azurewebsites.net/getmedia/d73af6e3-b4e5-4edb-a514-6383e2306a4b/16626-NCCA-Specification-for-Leaving-Certificate-CS-WEB-v4.pdf

doc_17

slingerz wrote: »

Not sure I have the credits for Maths to be honest. Think I am a long way short of the maths requirement. Accounting the most feasible subject for me to add. Do you just contact the teaching council to see what modules in accounting you should undertake in order to qualify?

Yes, give them a call and they’ll give you the answers. Do you have a degree? If so check their website to see what it qualifies you to teach.

doc_17

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Does seem to be very heavily loaded. Which would not encourage a high uptake. Students far more likely to stick with options known to maximize their points.

The bigger the donkey the heavier the load. NCCA are getting it wrong a lot these days. Another example is the SolidWorks in DCG, apparently it’s way over even the teachers’ heads.

slingerz

doc_17 wrote: »

Yes, give them a call and they’ll give you the answers. Do you have a degree? If so check their website to see what it qualifies you to teach.

thanks for that, i got the pdf of requirements for subjects as of 1/1/2017. that enables me to teach Business, Computer Science/ICT. I am 25 credits short for Accounting to LC so i must investigate into the possibility of studying additional accounting modules with the open university in order to qualify for this subject

poster2525

slingerz wrote: »

thanks for that, i got the pdf of requirements for subjects as of 1/1/2017. that enables me to teach Business, Computer Science/ICT. I am 25 credits short for Accounting to LC so i must investigate into the possibility of studying additional accounting modules with the open university in order to qualify for this subject

Be aware that you may be recognised for Computer Studies/ICT which is different to Computer Science.

mtoutlemonde

poster2525 wrote: »

Be aware that you may be recognised for Computer Studies/ICT which is different to Computer Science.

The Teaching Council won't change my registration from Computer Studies/ICT to Computer Science even though I have an IT degree and they had to change the requirements in some way and my degree would have to be reassessed for Computer Science. Have they changed the name for Computer Studies/ICT?

While I'm here - OP I wouldn't be depending on ICT getting you job - I'm a while trained and only teaching IT this year.

poster2525

Also be aware that having lots of subjects isn't necessarily a magic ticket. I've 4. I find that I can apply for lots of jobs but principals prefer that you've taught something recently.

You can lose out to someone who has 5 years recent experience as opposed to 2 years of one and 3 years of another.

slingerz

Business would be my main subject I would expect. I understand that the subject is one of the more common but you have to take your chances too. I’d have computer studies/ICT and am a module short for accounting so adding that string to my bow should be a positive.

I’d be interested in the computer science though as ICT & Computer Science is the way everything seems to be going so education can not be any different surely?

The multiple subjects not being magic wands makes sense but I would presume that having a singular subject would make employment prospects decrease

spurious

Outside Irish and maybe Maths, the employment chances are pretty bad anyway. Be prepared for numerous years without full hours.