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Anyone know if a third level degree has an 'expiry date' (so to speak)?

  • 08-11-2018 7:48pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭


    Does a third level degree ever 'expire' ? As in like other certifications that have an expiry date?

    Thanks :)


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Hello 1 wrote: »
    Does a third level degree ever 'expire' ? As in like other certifications that have an expiry date?

    Thanks :)

    It expires the day you graduate. Keep up to date with CPD and other live learnings


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    Use common sense.

    A computer science degree from 1965 is not valid today. Except perhaps for some very esoteric roles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭troyzer


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Use common sense.

    A computer science degree from 1965 is not valid today. Except perhaps for some very esoteric roles.

    To be fair if you graduated in 1965 you'd be in your seventies by now.

    When your degree was attained is irrelevent as long as you've had continous employment.

    If you had a computer science degree from 1980 you'd be in your late fifties now. If you had worked in computer science since graduating, then no problem.

    But a 58 year old applying for a job having done no computer science since 1980? In that context it's effectively expired.

    It's similar in my own field of geology. If you've gone 5-10 years from graduating without working in the field, it's very hard to break into later on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    godtabh wrote: »
    It expires the day you graduate. Keep up to date with CPD and other live learnings

    Correct. Fully agreed. We still have a public sector mentality in this country. If I do x, y, and z, then I will press buttons a, b, and c, and in that order, forever. The reality is no. You have to keep learning. The degree only shows you have the capacity and competence to handle the discipline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    troyzer wrote: »
    To be fair if you graduated in 1965 you'd be in your seventies by now.

    When your degree was attained is irrelevent as long as you've had continous employment.

    If you had a computer science degree from 1980 you'd be in your late fifties now. If you had worked in computer science since graduating, then no problem.

    But a 58 year old applying for a job having done no computer science since 1980? In that context it's effectively expired.

    It's similar in my own field of geology. If you've gone 5-10 years from graduating without working in the field, it's very hard to break into later on.

    Sure, I agree.

    I was just answering her question: do degrees expire.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Sir Ophiuchus


    myshirt wrote: »
    We still have a public sector mentality in this country. If I do x, y, and z, then I will press buttons a, b, and c, and in that order, forever.

    Ah, the usual bashing. How useful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Use common sense.

    A computer science degree from 1965 is not valid today. Except perhaps for some very esoteric roles.

    You might want to check the statute books before you throw out statements like that. Under statute, if it was awarded through an accredited public institution, the degree is valid (questions as to whether there were actually computer science degrees back in 1965, aside).

    Achieving a degree is not necessarily to do with the content, it is more a measure of attainment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    You might want to check the statute books before you throw out statements like that. Under statute, if it was awarded through an accredited public institution, the degree is valid (questions as to whether there were actually computer science degrees back in 1965, aside).

    Achieving a degree is not necessarily to do with the content, it is more a measure of attainment.

    Obviously I don't mean it actually expires, like an old yoghurt.

    I'm assuming the OP isn't asking about a legal definition, but rather wants to know if a degree becomes sort of useless after a while due to it being out if date.

    Maybe I'm misunderstanding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Obviously I don't mean it actually expires, like an old yoghurt.

    That's the first time I have experienced a degree being compared to a yoghurt. :D
    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    I'm assuming the OP isn't asking about a legal definition, but rather wants to know if a degree becomes sort of useless after a while due to it being out if date.

    Maybe I'm misunderstanding.

    No, but there is a substantial difference between the legal definition and the relevance of the content. I'd wager the OP is looking for the former. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    myshirt wrote: »
    Correct. Fully agreed. We still have a public sector mentality in this country. If I do x, y, and z, then I will press buttons a, b, and c, and in that order, forever. The reality is no. You have to keep learning. The degree only shows you have the capacity and competence to handle the discipline.

    What is this nonsense? Plenty of roles within the public and civil service require CDP. Learning and Development is a compulsory part of annual goal setting for every single employee. Training is regularly organised and often compulsory. The civil service is extremely supportive of continous learning.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Sir Ophiuchus


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    No, but there is a substantial difference between the legal definition and the relevance of the content. I'd wager the OP is looking for the former. ;)

    Yeah, I think OP was genuinely asking if a degree is equivalent to a certification that is only valid for a specified period.

    To which is answer is no. Once you have a degree (or any other IT/college/university qualification) you permanently have that qualification. If it's a BA in History, you always have a BA in History. It doesn't expire.

    Other posters are commenting that the work-related relevance of the qualification may change, as may the value of the content you learned at the time, but the fact you have a degree? That's for life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,558 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    a degree is an entrance for the workplace

    once working it's experience that counts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭stinkbomb


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Use common sense.

    A computer science degree from 1965 is not valid today. Except perhaps for some very esoteric roles.


    It's still valid, it's just not very useful. It hasn't expired, it's just obsolete.
    You always have a degree once you have a degree, some may never be of any use or relevance, some are timeless. But either way, it never expires.


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