Flat CRT Televisions???

LazySamaritan

I really don't have the space for a CRT television but before packing away my Nintendo 64 I did a Google looking for ideas of a N64 set up that didn't take too much space.

I have found a lot of flat TVs for sale online listed as CRT TVs. Mostly all the sites are Chinese related but I just got a reply from a German eBayer who clearly doesn't want to understand what he is selling but he said he just entered the EAN and those are the details that were added automatically.

Is it all a misunderstanding in translation from Chinese?

LazySamaritan

Here is one on eBay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Megasat-Classic-Line-16-15-6-Led-Tv-Dvb-s2-Dvb-t2-Dvb-s2-T2-c-HD-Tv-230v/163316722234?epid=2271507810&hash=item26066f6a3a:g:nScAAOSw2GlZy7oS

The Ritz

There’s no mention of CRT in the link you posted, that’s a low resolution LCD. There are no new CRT TVs being sold, if something is described as a “flat screen” you can depend that its LCD. Some CRT TVs had so-called “flat screens” towards the latter part of their production in that the screen had reduced curvature in one plane only, such as the Sony Trinitron line, but these were still bulky CRT sets, not flat in the sense of modern LCD TVs.


Ritz

LazySamaritan

The Ritz wrote: »

There’s no mention of CRT in the link you posted, that’s a low resolution LCD. There are no new CRT TVs being sold, if something is described as a “flat screen” you can depend that its LCD. Some CRT TVs had so-called “flat screens” towards the latter part of their production in that the screen had reduced curvature in one plane only, such as the Sony Trinitron line, but these were still bulky CRT sets, not flat in the sense of modern LCD TVs.


Ritz

In Item Specifics it says the display technology is CRT

cml387

LazySamaritan wrote: »

In Item Specifics it says the display technology is CRT

Probably misspelt CFT

EdgeCase

I don't think anyone makes CRTs anywhere anymore. They're technically rather complex and very, very heavy compared to LED and backlit LCD technology.

o1s1n

There's no such thing as a modern flat CRT. The technology uses a gun behind the screen which fires electrons at phosphors which light up - it's not possible to do that without an electron gun at the back.

There was a monitor in production (I think it was by samsung) that used CRT technology but was flat. How it worked was there were thousands upon thousands of micro CRTs in the screen. Really amazing idea but unfortunately it never took off

So yeah, if you want to keep using that N64 and don't have much space the best thing to do is to buy a 14 inch monitor. Look into Sony PVMs and BVMs if you want something high quality.

I use a Sony BVM 2016P myself, cost 10,000 pounds when they first came out. Thing ways almost 40kg

LazySamaritan

cml387 wrote: »

Probably misspelt CFT

What is CFT ? I Googled it but don't get anything related to TV technology.

LazySamaritan

EdgeCase wrote: »

I don't think anyone makes CRTs anywhere anymore. They're technically rather complex and very, very heavy compared to LED and backlit LCD technology.

Hence my confusion.:)

LazySamaritan

o1s1n wrote: »

There's no such thing as a modern flat CRT. The technology uses a gun behind the screen which fires electrons at phosphors which light up - it's not possible to do that without an electron gun at the back.

There was a monitor in production (I think it was by samsung) that used CRT technology but was flat. How it worked was there were thousands upon thousands of micro CRTs in the screen. Really amazing idea but unfortunately it never took off

So yeah, if you want to keep using that N64 and don't have much space the best thing to do is to buy a 14 inch monitor. Look into Sony PVMs and BVMs if you want something high quality.

I use a Sony BVM 2016P myself, cost 10,000 pounds when they first came out. Thing ways almost 40kg

I knew CRT TV had to have the big back which is why I confused by all this.

I had a quick look into those monitors. Fortunately there are lighter ones .

I'm going to hold of on packing the N64 away for a while. I'm getting a 4K TV soon and I'll see what the picture looks like and investigate options fr hook the two up together. If the result isn't good I'll look into those Sony monitors some more so thank you for suggesting those to me.:)

cml387

LazySamaritan wrote: »

Hence my confusion.:)

I was thinking of TFT:o

o1s1n

The n64 only does composite video out, doesn't even do proper RGB scart. Really annoying as it was standard with all other consoles of that gen.

The composite video signal combined with a 4k tv having to upscale a 240p image to a massive size is going to make your eyes bleed it'll be so awful unfortunately!

If you're ever looking for a Sony pro CRT for this send me a PM, I've a few different spots I can link you to to keep an eye on.

LazySamaritan

cml387 wrote: »

I was thinking of TFT:o

Don't think I've hear of that before either but Google found it.

LazySamaritan

o1s1n wrote: »

The n64 only does composite video out, doesn't even do proper RGB scart. Really annoying as it was standard with all other consoles of that gen.

Would a 4K TV not have composite ports?

(At this point in typing I developed a drinking problem exactly like Striker in Airplane and missed my mouth with the cup:rolleyes:)

There is also the option of a composite to scart adaptor.

o1s1n wrote: »

The composite video signal combined with a 4k tv having to upscale a 240p image to a massive size is going to make your eyes bleed it'll be so awful unfortunately!

I have been told before that it would look bad but thought it was because of incompatible think.

What I get from your comment though it is a bad image because it is being force to be bigger than it is meant to be.

Or is it both?

o1s1n wrote: »

If you're ever looking for a Sony pro CRT for this send me a PM, I've a few different spots I can link you to to keep an eye on.

I will take that offer. Thank you very much.

ZENER

Imagine trying to print a picture's thumbnail on to an A4 page and you'll get the idea. The pixels have to be enlarged to fill the screen, it really is awful.Add that to the colour fringing of a composite signal and . .well . . just don't

CRT's are still made as their shorter image persistence make them better for certain jobs like Airport X-Ray machines where the images are moving horizontally. The CRT will display them sharply while the LCD will just blur making the operators job very difficult and causes eye strain.

Ken