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Kuznetsov Drydock sinks

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭sparky42


    This honestly doesn't surprise me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭sparky42


    So the docks pumps jammed on while filling the tanks, and it's now under 160 foot of water, be interesting to see the impact on the Russian navies capabilities. Also this is the same dock that had the SSBN fire a few years back.
    http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24572/russias-dry-dock-accident-could-have-far-larger-repercussions-than-a-damaged-carrier


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,699 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Some good news in that one of the cranes was saved, by virtue of falling onto the deck of the Admiral Kuznetsov and both being transferred to another shipyard. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Some good news in that one of the cranes was saved, by virtue of falling onto the deck of the Admiral Kuznetsov and both being transferred to another shipyard. :pac:


    Do they have another one for a hull the size of him?


  • Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Excuse the noob question but are ships not normally addressed as female?


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,699 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    sparky42 wrote: »
    Do they have another one for a hull the size of him?

    Apparently they do, so just a delay to the repairs rather than a halt.

    A photo of the crane lying on the deck.

    DqxC1jiXcAAAmdE.jpg:large


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭sparky42


    ED E wrote: »
    Excuse the noob question but are ships not normally addressed as female?


    Western Navies yes, but Russia addresses them as male.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Apparently they do, so just a delay to the repairs rather than a halt.

    A photo of the crane lying on the deck.

    DqxC1jiXcAAAmdE.jpg:large


    Seems a bit conflicted, a russian article I translated through Google suggested the only one in "European Russia" is taking up with one of their Battlecruisers that's been in it since '06 and would need widening to the approaches for the carrier. Moreover that article contradicts the first info, that in fact the refit was only starting and access holes had been cut and he shipped several thousand tons of water onboard with the engine spaces flooded out perhaps...


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,699 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The dock I have seen discussed is at Severodvinsk in Arkhangelsk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    The dock I have seen discussed is at Severodvinsk in Arkhangelsk.


    The Sevmash one? That's the one that has Admiral Nakhimov in it and he's not meant to leave till at least 2021 (and I wouldn't put money on that), and needs work on the approaches according to that Russian article (though it could be wrong).


    Either way the loss of this dock has potential serious ramifications for the Russian Navy.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    A very seious state of affairs!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Nothing trivial, I hope.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭sparky42


    tac foley wrote: »
    Nothing trivial, I hope.


    Not by the sounds of it, don't think we'll be seeing him around for a while.


  • Registered Users Posts: 78,324 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Drydock
    It seems it was a floating dock. Possibly this one: https://www.google.ie/maps/@69.0599709,33.1979959,1120m/data=!3m1!1e3

    Huge number of civilian and military ships, including some other floating docks (one appears sunk) and sunken hulks within Kola Bay.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭sparky42


    So even the Russians are admitting the refit will be "delayed", no **** lads:
    https://thediplomat.com/2018/11/russia-admits-that-it-cant-retrofit-aircraft-carrier-after-accident/


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    sparky42 wrote: »
    Either way the loss of this dock has potential serious ramifications for the Russian Navy.


    Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭sparky42


    tac foley wrote: »
    Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks.


    Not disagreeing with you, be interesting to see who they can get to bring the Dock up again? If it's down for over a year I wonder how much work it would need just to be restored to operations.


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