Style advice, please :)

H3llR4iser

Hello there ladies and gentlemen,

Please bear with me with this one; I have a female friend, somebody whom I care a lot, who's bringing me to the end of my tether with her constant criticism about what I wear. I know she means well, yet every time it stings and I have to make quite the effort to hide how annoyed I am.

But that's not the central point here - my dealings with her are my own business; What I am wondering is if she might be right?

Last time she saw me, I was wearing something very similar to this:

http://www.marksandspencer.ie/Brown-Checked-Regular-Fit-Jacket/P60167251,en_IE,pd.html?dwvar_P60167251_color=N0&start=

And she commented it was an "old man's outfit", especially the jacket - I understand it might or might not meet someone's taste, but I hardly see it as a geriatric way to dress - also considering I'm 38 and she's in her mid-30s as well.

I would normally be wearing regular/classic/straight fit jeans of various colours, from the standard blue to grey to black , with either a shirt or a polo; the odd t-shirt in the summer. Unless I'm wearing some sort of jacket, or I'm in a "smart casual" environment, I normally leave my shirt/polo/t-shirt tucked out.

As for shoes, with jeans I would use "casual shoes", like these: https://ie.ecco.com/en-IE/product/5637146451/ECCO-HOWELL?gclid=Cj0KCQjw6rXeBRD3ARIsAD9ni9B2LSmeyY9GURoWOyMRHHESC_eD8ndMsb2sa6N_vsjN1jtCoXjvaesaAgwdEALw_wcB

Usually black or brown, depending on the rest of the outfit.

Except for not wearing skinny / ripped jeans, I can't really detect my own style to be radically different from most guys I see around me - if a tiny bit more classic in the sense that I avoid large prints or garish colours; yet I might be totally clueless at this point when it comes to casual wear (I can rock a suit like a feckin' champ, no one including her ever had anything to say about that one!).

Wibbs

Just my personal take H3ll and as anyone who's ever met me in the sordid flesh will attest, on style* it's probably a good plan to take the position that I'm a thundering gobshite(a sensible position to take in general..). I would say it depends quite a bit on body shape. The younger man can get away with far more; A, because he's younger and is expected and accepted to be a little "out there" and B, because more often than not he's either toned or whippet thin.

Older chaps can't get away with A, unless they're rock stars and there are few of them and even among them... B comes into play if any sort of middle aged spread comes into it. Clothes, especially "trendy" clothes look much better on the skinny guy, because skinny is more likely to be "young". If you're built slim like a racing ferret then you've much more choice and can get away with more for longer. If you're a more upholstered chap, then choices tend to get more limited.

I would say H3ll that from what you've posted I don't see anything too mad about what you wear. If anything pretty "mainstream". Certainly nothing "old man" about it. As for your lady friend, has she suggested alternatives or is she just about the critique? Critique is fine, but about as much help as a boil on a jockey's arse without alternate options being offered. Of my women mates, I can't think of an occasion where they even mentioned my garb. With the single exception of one who's in the fashion biz and even there she was both a little askance, but more supportive. A couple of exes were, but my general response was you're not me mammy and said mammy hasn't picked out clothes for me since my confirmation, though looked at me askance well after that.


TL;DR? I say H3ll, wear what you feel good in, what makes you feel good and hang the criticism. Caveat: on my DNA liberally dotted among the normal CGAT letters are the letters DGAF. IMHO a good mutation to have.









*my "style" would be kinda classic stuff, non suited, "hipster" before it was labelled such. Middle aged muso without the spandex.

Padraig Mor

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Last time she saw me, I was wearing something very similar to this:

http://www.marksandspencer.ie/Brown-Checked-Regular-Fit-Jacket/P60167251,en_IE,pd.html?dwvar_P60167251_color=N0&start=

And she commented it was an "old man's outfit", especially the jacket - I understand it might or might not meet someone's taste, but I hardly see it as a geriatric way to dress - also considering I'm 38 and she's in her mid-30s as well.

I certainly can't be accused of being a fashion leader but that outfit doesn't strike me as being old man at all. Overall a 'classic' outfit - in a good way. The jacket would even strike me as actually reasonably cool, although it's possible it could be viewed as old hat by those with a less than worldy outlook and who may associate tweeds etc with the 70s.

Keyzer

H3llR4iser wrote: »

I have a female friend, somebody whom I care a lot, who's bringing me to the end of my tether with her constant criticism about what I wear. I know she means well, yet every time it stings and I have to make quite the effort to hide how annoyed I am.

But that's not the central point here...

If she was a true friend she wouldn't keep criticising you.

If I were you, I'd tell her (in a nice way) to stop badgering you.

As for the jacket, the design is not my style but I wear blazers like this all the time. I'm 40.

omb0wyn5ehpij9

The size/fit of the clothes has a big bearing on them. If the clothes are too big/hanging off somebody, I personally think it makes them look older and more frumpy.

Sabre0001

You could put the challenge to her to find you an outfit(s) (warning: you may end up being dragged in and out of shops).

The model of the jacket probably doesn't help the perception that it's for an older gentleman. But if you like it, you think you look good in it, and it feels good, then go for it!

meeeeh

Well check is everywhere this year. So you are right on trend there. I'm not fan of the Ecco shoes. They look a bit too orthopaedic to me but that's personal preference. I certainly wouldn't describe your style as old just as grown up (which is a good thing).

Tell me how

39 year old male here.

Style is indeed subjective, and the most important opinion is your own.

One thing I think worth mentioning though is the environment also plays a part in the appropriate style. If you wore the above jacket to a classy restaurant I think age is less inclined to be mentioned, if you wore it to Tuesday night cinema then it might appear more....... out of place.

TitianGerm

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Hello there ladies and gentlemen,

Please bear with me with this one; I have a female friend, somebody whom I care a lot, who's bringing me to the end of my tether with her constant criticism about what I wear. I know she means well, yet every time it stings and I have to make quite the effort to hide how annoyed I am.

But that's not the central point here - my dealings with her are my own business; What I am wondering is if she might be right?

Last time she saw me, I was wearing something very similar to this:

http://www.marksandspencer.ie/Brown-Checked-Regular-Fit-Jacket/P60167251,en_IE,pd.html?dwvar_P60167251_color=N0&start=

And she commented it was an "old man's outfit", especially the jacket - I understand it might or might not meet someone's taste, but I hardly see it as a geriatric way to dress - also considering I'm 38 and she's in her mid-30s as well.

I would normally be wearing regular/classic/straight fit jeans of various colours, from the standard blue to grey to black , with either a shirt or a polo; the odd t-shirt in the summer. Unless I'm wearing some sort of jacket, or I'm in a "smart casual" environment, I normally leave my shirt/polo/t-shirt tucked out.

As for shoes, with jeans I would use "casual shoes", like these: https://ie.ecco.com/en-IE/product/5637146451/ECCO-HOWELL?gclid=Cj0KCQjw6rXeBRD3ARIsAD9ni9B2LSmeyY9GURoWOyMRHHESC_eD8ndMsb2sa6N_vsjN1jtCoXjvaesaAgwdEALw_wcB

Usually black or brown, depending on the rest of the outfit.

Except for not wearing skinny / ripped jeans, I can't really detect my own style to be radically different from most guys I see around me - if a tiny bit more classic in the sense that I avoid large prints or garish colours; yet I might be totally clueless at this point when it comes to casual wear (I can rock a suit like a feckin' champ, no one including her ever had anything to say about that one!).

Those ECCO shoes are really "old", and in my opinion black shoes never look great with denim jeans.

I'd definitely try something else especially with jeans. Try something in a tan leather with a more casual look

https://www.clarks.eu/c/Un-Voyage-Lace/p/26136811

Or a boot

https://www.clarks.eu/c/Clarkdale-Bud/p/26127780

Both those would pair a lot nicer with denim jeans (especially with grey and black).

Jacket is fine but I don't like the brown. I have similar myself but in a burgundy colour and another in a navy. I do tend to keep the jackets plain though and if you want a bit of colour/pattern look for one with a designed lining.

speedboatchase

It depends on how you would put together an outfit like that - how is the silhouette? Is the jacket fitted but the trousers are too wide, or too casual, or don't compliment the jacket? Then how do the trousers fall, do they spool around the shoe?

Fit and consistency is a big part of making an outfit look effortless but well put together. My issue with the two items you showed is that A. the jacket has a lot going on - many different colours and elements that would make it hard to be a versatile, every day item. B. the shoes are functional but not especially fashionable, and you could get a lot better for the price.

What I do is very simple. I have a few brands that fit me really well, so I only buy certain items from them rather than shop everywhere. So I'll only buy XX shirts, YY trousers, and ZZ t-shirts. Pay extra to find these brands, as they'll last a longer than 'fast-fashion' high street clothes. In my case I wear NN07 shirts, NN07 trousers (I wait for the Mr Porter sale for these), Velva Sheen t-shirts, and Veja have some cool runners. Those are all on Mr Porter, but again, I always wait for sales for a few items.

I don't make it any more complicated than that - shirts at night, t-shirts during the day. Haven't bought a short-sleeve shirt, cardigan or polo shirt in years. No crazy patterns, logos or harder to match materials (I don't even wear denim), but I mix interesting colours together and generally my whole outfit is two colours or a combination of light and dark: burgundy shirt/navy trousers/navy suede shoes, navy fleck shirt/navy trousers/plain white runners; navy shirt, dark green trousers, plain white runners.

Invest in a few everyday necessities and you'll have the start of a capsule wardrobe to build around. Alternatively, tell your friend to f*** off!

omb0wyn5ehpij9

TitianGerm wrote: »

Those ECCO shoes are really "old", and in my opinion black shoes never look great with denim jeans.

I'd definitely try something else especially with jeans. Try something in a tan leather with a more casual look

https://www.clarks.eu/c/Un-Voyage-Lace/p/26136811

Or a boot

https://www.clarks.eu/c/Clarkdale-Bud/p/26127780

Both those would pair a lot nicer with denim jeans (especially with grey and black).

I completely agree with the above also. The black Ecco shoes ;are very old fashioned, I'd expect to see them on a man in his 60s. Black shoes do not go with denim either.
I like the above suggestions, especially the boots

Plopsu

Practise this phrase and use it every time she 'critiques' you: "Actually, I quite like what I'm wearing. By the way, your ar*e looks huge in that". I can't imagine you'll need to use it too often before she gets the message.

Tell me how

Plopsu wrote: »

Practise this phrase and use it every time she 'critiques' you: "Actually, I quite like what I'm wearing. By the way, your ar*e looks huge in that". I can't imagine you'll need to use it too often before she gets the message.

That's ridiculous.

_Brian

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Hello there ladies and gentlemen,

Please bear with me with this one; I have a female friend, somebody whom I care a lot, who's bringing me to the end of my tether with her constant criticism about what I wear. I know she means well, yet every time it stings and I have to make quite the effort to hide how annoyed I am.

But that's not the central point here - my dealings with her are my own business; What I am wondering is if she might be right?

Last time she saw me, I was wearing something very similar to this:

http://www.marksandspencer.ie/Brown-Checked-Regular-Fit-Jacket/P60167251,en_IE,pd.html?dwvar_P60167251_color=N0&start=

And she commented it was an "old man's outfit", especially the jacket - I understand it might or might not meet someone's taste, but I hardly see it as a geriatric way to dress - also considering I'm 38 and she's in her mid-30s as well.

I would normally be wearing regular/classic/straight fit jeans of various colours, from the standard blue to grey to black , with either a shirt or a polo; the odd t-shirt in the summer. Unless I'm wearing some sort of jacket, or I'm in a "smart casual" environment, I normally leave my shirt/polo/t-shirt tucked out.

As for shoes, with jeans I would use "casual shoes", like these: https://ie.ecco.com/en-IE/product/5637146451/ECCO-HOWELL?gclid=Cj0KCQjw6rXeBRD3ARIsAD9ni9B2LSmeyY9GURoWOyMRHHESC_eD8ndMsb2sa6N_vsjN1jtCoXjvaesaAgwdEALw_wcB

Usually black or brown, depending on the rest of the outfit.

Except for not wearing skinny / ripped jeans, I can't really detect my own style to be radically different from most guys I see around me - if a tiny bit more classic in the sense that I avoid large prints or garish colours; yet I might be totally clueless at this point when it comes to casual wear (I can rock a suit like a feckin' champ, no one including her ever had anything to say about that one!).

You could of course just dress for yourself and let her go to a frozen long lasting hell and bring her opinions with her. Who made her your style police anyway !

Plopsu

Tell me how wrote: »

That's ridiculous.

Oh, you suspect that she wouldn't react well. Did you, by any chance, hear a whooshing sound as you read my post?

Tell me how

Plopsu wrote: »

Oh, you suspect that she wouldn't react well. Did you, by any chance, hear a whooshing sound as you read my post?

On Boards?

You get all kinds of opinions. All Kindssss.

begbysback

If your going to pull off that jacket then you need the blue jeans and tanned shoes - any diversion from this could go very wrong

gozunda

Your selection of what to wear looks fine tbh. I wouldn't sweat too much over your female friends attempts to recreate you in her image - a bit too much mammyish there for my preference. As long as you are happy with what you are wearing and look presentable with clothes that suit your needs - you can ignore most of it imo.

H3llR4iser

Wibbs wrote: »

Just my personal take H3ll and as anyone who's ever met me in the sordid flesh will attest, on style* it's probably a good plan to take the position that I'm a thundering gobshite(a sensible position to take in general..). I would say it depends quite a bit on body shape. The younger man can get away with far more; A, because he's younger and is expected and accepted to be a little "out there" and B, because more often than not he's either toned or whippet thin.

Body type / shape is a big problem in my case - technically speaking, I don't really fit into the classic three types (ectomorph/mesomorph/endomorph). I do have the characteristics of and endomorph (big & stocky, wide shoulders and hips, need to constantly watch what I eat), but I'm also on the taller side at nearly 6'2" (6'1.7", according to a laser measurement machine).

Clothes shopping is a nightmare: stuff that fits is too short, stuff that is long enough doesn't fit (it looks like men are either tall & lanky or short & fat, according to retailers). I have to try on and check everything and for this reason buying online is a total no-go.

Wibbs wrote: »

Older chaps can't get away with A, unless they're rock stars and there are few of them and even among them... B comes into play if any sort of middle aged spread comes into it. Clothes, especially "trendy" clothes look much better on the skinny guy, because skinny is more likely to be "young". If you're built slim like a racing ferret then you've much more choice and can get away with more for longer. If you're a more upholstered chap, then choices tend to get more limited.

A few years ago I dressed up for Halloween with a group of friends - and the outfit included tight bottoms, way before "skinny jeans" became a thing for guys (bleurgh!). Unanimous agreement was that I looked like a WWE wrestler from the 1980s in that :D:D

Keyzer wrote: »

If she was a true friend she wouldn't keep criticising you.

If I were you, I'd tell her (in a nice way) to stop badgering you.

As for the jacket, the design is not my style but I wear blazers like this all the time. I'm 40.

Yep, I realize that - I wouldn't dare telling her how to dress indeed; However I know her for decades, know her characters and I'm conscious she means well. I also know that most likely, her view comes from her own taste, which might be a very personal thing.

Sabre0001 wrote: »

You could put the challenge to her to find you an outfit(s) (warning: you may end up being dragged in and out of shops).

Did something like that in the past with mixed results - she did get a bit of a taste of my world when anything she considered "cool" proved to be fitting me in an extremely weird way. Ended up buying a few things that weren't any different from what I would normally wear, interestingly.

TitianGerm wrote: »

Those ECCO shoes are really "old", and in my opinion black shoes never look great with denim jeans.

I'd definitely try something else especially with jeans. Try something in a tan leather with a more casual look

https://www.clarks.eu/c/Un-Voyage-Lace/p/26136811

Or a boot

https://www.clarks.eu/c/Clarkdale-Bud/p/26127780

Well I meant "shoes that are cut like sneakers but aren't", not these specific ones. That said, I really like the ones you posted - will check those out.

gozunda wrote: »

Your selection of what to wear looks fine tbh. I wouldn't sweat too much over your female friends attempts to recreate you in her image - a bit too much mammyish there for my preference. As long as you are happy with what you are wearing and look presentable with clothes that suit your needs - you can ignore most of it imo.

Yep, I get that she's basically seeing things through her own taste filter - it's just my way not to outright dismiss criticism, I always despised the people who would just lash out when given advice.

EarlyStorms

As somebody else mentioned its all about the fit, whatever style you want to go for if it doesn't fit well it wont look that good. You seem to like a classic style, there's nothing wrong with that it'll never go out of fashion. Nice classic blazers, overcoat, trousers, jeans, shirts, knitwear etc. with a good pair of shoes/boots you cant go wrong really as long as it fits you right.

gozunda

H3llR4iser wrote: »

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Yep, I get that she's basically seeing things through her own taste filter - it's just my way not to outright dismiss criticism, I always despised the people who would just lash out when given advice.

That's fair enough. Though tbh wouldn't take her suggestions as 'criticism' though - just that she has her own ideas about style or otherwise which are different to your own. Why would you lash out anyway? Not sure what your saying tbh.

H3llR4iser

gozunda wrote: »

That's fair enough. Though tbh wouldn't take her suggestions as 'criticism' though - just that she has her own ideas about style or otherwise which are different to your own. Why would you lash out anyway? Not sure what your saying tbh.

It's the way it's given - "this doesn't suit you very well" is very different from "you look like a fcucking old man!" or "you need to burn your entire wardrobe if you ever want to get laid again!". If it was anyone else, I'd be telling where to go with these remarks, but knowing her...it's the way she goes about things. Again, the central point here isn't how I deal with her - that's entirely my business.

It's whether she might have a point or not, which might very well be a subjective thing.

As for the lashing out part - have you seriously never met anybody to which you can't make the mildest, most polite of observations without them just going defensive, "counter-attacking" or being "offended"? Heck, I've even met people who would ASK for advice, and then throw an hissy fit when it didn't confirm or agree with their own ideas...I can't be the only one finding these people! :p:p

gozunda

H3llR4iser wrote: »

It's the way it's given - "this doesn't suit you very well" is very different from "you look like a fcucking old man!" or "you need to burn your entire wardrobe if you ever want to get laid again!". If it was anyone else, I'd be telling where to go with these remarks, but knowing her...it's the way she goes about things. Again, the central point here isn't how I deal with her - that's entirely my business.

It's whether she might have a point or not, which might very well be a subjective thing.

As for the lashing out part - have you seriously never met anybody to which you can't make the mildest, most polite of observations without them just going defensive, "counter-attacking" or being "offended"? Heck, I've even met people who would ASK for advice, and then throw an hissy fit when it didn't confirm or agree with their own ideas...I can't be the only one finding these people! :p:p

Nope - don't have time for that type of ****e :pac:
Btw your fashion sense seems fine tbh.

BloodBath

You are only 38, only a year older than me and I would say that jacket and shoes are quite old fashioned and not good looking at all especially considering their cost. It is definitely something I would expect a guy over 50 - 60 to wear. Far too safe and boring.

I'm guessing you wear some old fashioned quite baggy/ non fitted jeans as well. I can see her point to be honest.

Have a bit more fun with your cloths. You will have plenty of time to dress like an old man later in life.

Keyzer wrote: »

If she was a true friend she wouldn't keep criticising you.

If I were you, I'd tell her (in a nice way) to stop badgering you.

As for the jacket, the design is not my style but I wear blazers like this all the time. I'm 40.

Nonsense. Good friends are always brutally honest. It's whether you care or not.

Women are big into clothes/fashion and judge a man a lot on what he wears whether you like it or not.

I know several women who the first thing they check out on a guy is his shoes. No Joke.

H3llR4iser

BloodBath wrote: »

You are only 38, only a year older than me and I would say that jacket and shoes are quite old fashioned and not good looking at all especially considering their cost. It is definitely something I would expect a guy over 50 - 60 to wear. Far too safe and boring.

I'm guessing you wear some old fashioned quite baggy/ non fitted jeans as well. I can see her point to be honest.

Have a bit more fun with your cloths. You will have plenty of time to dress like an old man later in life.

So what would you wear?

BloodBath

I'm no fashion expert and I don't know what you look like or the occasion. I also tend to maybe dress a bit younger than I am.

You don't have to change your style much, just choose better colours and fabrics, buy fitted clothes if you can get away with it.

Something cleaner/shinier looking rather than rough/dull materials like that jacket. That kind of texture is more suited to older people as their skin/hair is also generally more textured.

Skinny jeans do not have to be spray painted on to you and they don't have to be uncomfortable. Good fitted jeans are flexible and comfortable.

I tend to wear quite muted colours in jackets and jeans. Usually in the black to grey range. I have fun with the shirt/t shirt and shoes then.

Don't be afraid of splashes of colour as well even with plain colours. It can be as simple as the stitching in your jacket or your shirt/t-shirt matching some colour detailing in your shoes.

The right size/cut is also important. The right fit goes a long way. Always try cloths on. I have jeans that are a 30 on the waist that are too loose and 34's that are too tight. The same applies to length.

I am not a fan of plain shoes like that. I tend to wear something like these. DC are my go to choice of smart casual shoe. I always have at least 2 pairs of them. Splash of colour, not too flashy and not boring either and also super comfortable. Can also pick them up in TKMax sometimes for around €30 a pair and they last. I only wear leather shoes if I have to. My shoe fetish female friends love these shoes.

https://www.dressinn.com/f/129/1293852/dc-shoes-trase-sp-shoe.jpg
http://www.angelsarkchildcare.com/images/348/ADYS300123BLG.jpg
https://cdn.shop.dailyskatetube.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/DC-Trase-TX-Unisex-Skate-Shoe-BlackGold-95-M-US-0-4.jpg
http://www.blogosphereagency.fr/images/blogosphereagency.fr/DC-Shoes-Mikey-Taylor-Vulc-TX-SE-Chauses-Homme-Lexportation.jpg
http://www.homesteadoffice.com/images//pic/HjIUsWnf%20DC.jpg
https://http2.mlstatic.com/tenis-dc-shoes-mens-trase-tx-se-adys300123-gyb-grey-gris-D_NQ_NP_824106-MLM26720744898_012018-F.jpg

Wibbs

A relative dropped into me earlier with a nice bottle of chianti(has a year, not a use by date) and am two glasses in so...

Padraig Mor wrote: »

I certainly can't be accused of being a fashion leader but that outfit doesn't strike me as being old man at all.

Having recently met PM in RealLife™ TBH my immediate impression was a very stylish chap, who definitely had a decent handle on "style". Classically garbed, but stood out on the street as "well dressed" and would have over the last 40 years. His immediate impression of me was more likely along the lines of "Christ, no, I don't want to buy The Big Issue/Please don't mug me"...

BDJW wrote: »

The size/fit of the clothes has a big bearing on them. If the clothes are too big/hanging off somebody, I personally think it makes them look older and more frumpy.

+1 Fit matters more with age IMH. Too big, as you say BD looks frumpy, too small and it looks try hard and misshapen.

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Body type / shape is a big problem in my case - technically speaking, I don't really fit into the classic three types (ectomorph/mesomorph/endomorph). I do have the characteristics of and endomorph (big & stocky, wide shoulders and hips, need to constantly watch what I eat), but I'm also on the taller side at nearly 6'2" (6'1.7", according to a laser measurement machine).

Aye. A while back I was talking with mate of mine regarding clothes and sizes and I reckoned there wasn't much of an issue, but as he pointed out I'd be on the outlier of more scrawny so wouldn't find as much of an issue. That many if not most styles were made and pandered to that kinda ectomorph, with some mesomorph thrown in, body shape. That anyone outside of that, or older guys are much less catered for. Their choices limited to suits and even there off the peg is very variable in fit and finish. I've heard women in my life say similar for years. That it can be bloody difficult to find the right cut and fit and both vary massively from shop to shop and brand to brand. Though to be fair blokes have it a bit easier there as our stuff is usually measured in actual inches/cms, not the vague 8/10/12 stuff that women have to contend with.

I would agree with others on the black shoes with that rig out. Brown is the way to go. I'd also say that much beyond 25, 30 at a stretch, colour tones should be reduced overall. More dark colours, blues, blacks, browns, greens. Earth colours? Too bright tends to wash out older skin/hair and really accentuates body shape with it. Might work if you're a stripped down racing snake, or have more muscles attached than the Holyhead ferry, otherwise, nope. Like BloodBath said above(and bloody good advice all around IMHO) a splash of colour is good. That works from 9 to 90, or 9 hours dead.

Padraig Mor

Wibbs wrote: »

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Having recently met PM in RealLife™ TBH my immediate impression was a very stylish chap, who definitely had a decent handle on "style". Classically garbed, but stood out on the street as "well dressed" and would have over the last 40 years. His immediate impression of me was more likely along the lines of "Christ, no, I don't want to buy The Big Issue/Please don't mug me"...

Jaysis Wibbs, I dunno - the ol' monocle may need adjusting! I can get away with dressing 'old man' though because...err.....I am one!


Everyone's right on the shoes too. Black sucks outside of being worn with a few specific pants colours. Brown is a no brainer usually but the king'o'colours as far as I'm concerned (looking at leather shoes anyway) is burgundy / oxblood. Not immediately obvious but it's the most versatile colour of the lot - goes with pretty much any pants colour - even black - yet inherently gives a little extra 'style'. I have four pairs covering most non - sport / slouching occasions: wholecut, Adelaide, austerity brogue and full wingtip (old pair used as beaters in the rain - most comfy of the lot though).

OldRio

Having read the thread and as someone who is in his sixties. Can I assure you I won't be seen dead in that jacket and shoes. Awful awful awful.

You see lumping everyone in the... 'Looks like something an old guy would wear' is incorrect. We are all different. Does the OP feel comfortable in what he is wearing is the point. If he is, grand. Ignore the woman, seems a bit pushy and mumsy to me.

If the OP wants to change his style then the advice is on forums like this. Only advice on clothing is make sure it fits, use a tailor or such if needed.

Old man fashion indeed. I need a rest now. Afternoon nap. ��