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Windows & Doors - foam trim left exposed

  • 22-10-2018 2:30pm
    #1
    djm1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭


    Just had new windows and doors fitted to my house. The finish is unusual in that there is a foam / sponge trim on the exterior between the windows / doors and the masonry. I've never seen this before and am concerned it will rot over the years. Would be grateful for the views of anyone with a bit of knowledge, can post photos if that helps. Thanks.


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  • #2
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    djm1234 wrote: »
    Just had new windows and doors fitted to my house. The finish is unusual in that there is a foam / sponge trim on the exterior between the windows / doors and the masonry. I've never seen this before and am concerned it will rot over the years. Would be grateful for the views of anyone with a bit of knowledge, can post photos if that helps. Thanks.

    It's usually used when fitting to seal up the frame to the ope. When the reveals are plastered it should all be covered and never seen again.
    You could put up a picture in case it's different from what I think but I'd say that's it


  • #3
    djm1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭djm1234


    Bullocks wrote: »
    It's usually used when fitting to seal up the frame to the ope. When the reveals are plastered it should all be covered and never seen again.
    You could put up a picture in case it's different from what I think but I'd say that's it

    Thanks very much, having trouble getting a photo up...is the fitter normally responsible for plastering over it?


  • #4
    jmBuildExt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭jmBuildExt


    djm1234 wrote: »
    Thanks very much, having trouble getting a photo up...is the fitter normally responsible for plastering over it?

    Very often, not.
    Depends what you agreed


  • #5
    djm1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭djm1234


    jmBuildExt wrote: »
    Very often, not.
    Depends what you agreed

    Not what I hoped to hear but thanks for the info. Just agreed that they'd supply & fit! If they're not under obligation who is the best type of tradesman to do it?


  • #6
    jmBuildExt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭jmBuildExt


    If this work was included, they would have used a line something like "make good the reveals".
    A plasterer is what you want.


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  • #7
    Doop
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    Very unusual for it not to be part of the deal.


  • #8
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Is this replacing old windows? I thought it was a new build.
    Usually when replacing windows the plaster is knocked off inside and patched inside. The outside is not touched except for a bead of silicon to seal it back onto the old reveal.
    It's not always done this way. How big is the gap between frame and outside reveal? You might have to trim back a bit of foam to see that.


  • #9
    djm1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭djm1234


    Its replacing old windows, there was no written agreement as such. I'll try & get a couple of photos up shortly. Thanks guys.


  • #10
    jmBuildExt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭jmBuildExt


    Just re-read the OP again myself....Didnt realise you were talking about the external reveals.
    Agree with above: it is unusual that the replacement would not be tight with outside reveals and then a line of mastic/silicon around the edges.

    A pic will be necessary i think.


  • #11
    djm1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭djm1234


    Hi,

    Can't post pics as I'm a new user but have broken the link in two which might work...

    https://imgur.com/TVu68lc

    Anyway, I'd also emailed the window fitter (50% of fees still outstanding) & they eventually replied stating "The black tape that you can on the outside is an energy sealing system must be left exposed".
    Putting this in writing gives me some confidence but any opinions very welcome.


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  • #12
    jmBuildExt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭jmBuildExt


    djm1234 wrote: »
    Hi,

    Can't post pics as I'm a new user but have broken the link in two which might work...

    https: //imgur.com/TVu68lc

    Anyway, I'd also emailed the window fitter (50% of fees still outstanding) & they eventually replied stating "The black tape that you can on the outside is an energy sealing system must be left exposed".
    Putting this in writing gives me some confidence but any opinions very welcome.

    The link didn't work - Sounds like they are talking about airtight tape.... Ive never heard of it being left exposed.


  • #13
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Just Push in the foam backing and silicone the window to wall.


  • #14
    djm1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭djm1234


    Hi, Here is another attempt to upload a pic, thanks again for your opinions.

    https://imgur.com/TVu68lc
    window trim.jpg


  • #15
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    djm1234 wrote: »
    Hi, Here is another attempt to upload a pic, thanks again for your opinions.

    https://imgur.com/TVu68lc
    window trim.jpg

    I haven't seen that stuff before but maybe the rep is right and that's the finish. It would look better in white or with white silicon over it though


  • #16
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Bullocks wrote: »
    I haven't seen that stuff before but maybe the rep is right and that's the finish. It would look better in white or with white silicon over it though

    It’s not the finish it’s the polyethylene foam backing rod, it should be finished with a mastic joint.


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