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60KWh Leaf

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    #2
    80sDiesel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭80sDiesel


    Ryath wrote: »
    Looks like it may be a little closer than we thought.
    https://insideevs.com/60-kwh-nissan-leaf-price/

    "The base version of the current car (no pun intended), with its EPA range rating of 151 miles boasts "

    What pun?

    A man is rich in proportion to the number of things which he can afford to let alone.



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    hognef
    Registered Users Posts: 828 ✭✭✭hognef


    80sDiesel wrote: »
    "The base version of the current car (no pun intended), with its EPA range rating of 151 miles boasts "

    What pun?

    Electric current?


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    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    Spoke with Nissan dealer today and they are getting 60KWh Leaf demos in January and first customer deliveries expected end of February.


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    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,759 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    icom wrote: »
    Spoke with Nissan dealer today and they are getting 60KWh Leaf demos in January and first customer deliveries expected end of February.

    Get out of here, its not April 1st :)


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    denismc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭denismc


    icom wrote: »
    Spoke with Nissan dealer today and they are getting 60KWh Leaf demos in January and first customer deliveries expected end of February.
    Wow, they kept that quiet, I guess it would hurt sales of the current version.


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    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,759 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    denismc wrote: »
    Wow, they kept that quiet, I guess it would hurt sales of the current version.

    I hope so :)
    I'll buy a 40kwh one next year then :)


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    Wheety
    Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    80sDiesel wrote: »
    "The base version of the current car (no pun intended), with its EPA range rating of 151 miles boasts "

    What pun?

    Electrical current :-D


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    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    kceire wrote: »
    Get out of here, its not April 1st :)

    Was thinking the same thing myself, but he did seem quite serious about it.

    Same as you, I'll believe it when I see it. :)

    He could not say how much it would cost !


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    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,341 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    80sDiesel wrote: »
    "The base version of the current car (no pun intended), with its EPA range rating of 151 miles boasts "

    What pun?

    Prospective buyers won't be able to resist the range of vehicles on offer, watt spec they're getting, nor the prices charged.

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



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    daheff
    Registered Users Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭daheff


    So anybody care to hazard a guess at what the Irish price would be? 40k?


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    unkel
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    icom wrote: »
    Spoke with Nissan dealer today and they are getting 60KWh Leaf demos in January and first customer deliveries expected end of February.

    Which dealer? I find that very hard to believe.

    Prices likely about €5k more than L40? Real life range of L40 is 201km (ADAC) so L60 maybe about 285km? And will it have CCS charging or is it still stuck at 45kW in this country?


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    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,217 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    No wonder there chasing PCP owners to upgrade now to L40. Just put in €4K and pay about €100/month along with the old car!!!


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    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,823 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Interesting, hopefully confirmation of active battery cooling...

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    KCross
    Registered Users Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    unkel wrote: »
    Which dealer? I find that very hard to believe.

    I think unlikely as well. They usually announce a few months in advance. Jan for demo cars is only weeks away.
    unkel wrote: »
    Prices likely about €5k more than L40?

    Definitely €4k more anyway, but maybe €5k.
    unkel wrote: »
    Real life range of L40 is 201km (ADAC) so L60 maybe about 285km?

    Since they are using a different battery supplier, the efficiency should be better than the L40.

    I also wonder, with the change to LG Chem, will they start reporting usable capacity rather than total since that is how LG Chem and the other car manufacturers report it. So, the L60 (or is it L64 like Kona etc?) isnt just 20kWh more than an L40, its actually 24kWh+ more. All that confuses the numbers too in relation to range.

    unkel wrote: »
    And will it have CCS charging or is it still stuck at 45kW in this country?

    I'd say close to zero chance of CCS.


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    Lantus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭Lantus


    daheff wrote:
    So anybody care to hazard a guess at what the Irish price would be? 40k?


    An extra 10k for 24kwh is quite extreme.

    Puts it toe to toe with an suv, kona.

    The l40 has been really popular but recent test show rivals are producing very good cars. If leaf wants market share now where it counts they will need to be aggressive on price. I'd pay an extra 3 to 4 k max. Beyond that other makes will give more for less. If Nissan want to be bat**** crazy they will push it at 2k extra and ask the Western world to form an orderly queue.


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    Chewchewtrain
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    Hm, I am very close to pulling the trigger on the 40kw leaf, but these rumours have me slightly torn...

    The theory of the 60kw leaf would be ideal for all my needs.

    Should I believe the rumour that they'll be around in q1 2019? Wasn't going to wait until Q3 2019...


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    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,147 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Chewchewtrain wrote: »
    Should I believe the rumour that they'll be around in q1 2019?

    No you shouldn't. It won't happen.

    Welcome to boards, by the way :)


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    daheff
    Registered Users Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭daheff


    Chewchewtrain wrote: »
    Hm, I am very close to pulling the trigger on the 40kw leaf, but these rumours have me slightly torn...

    The theory of the 60kw leaf would be ideal for all my needs.

    Should I believe the rumour that they'll be around in q1 2019? Wasn't going to wait until Q3 2019...

    I talked with a dealer a couple of weeks back and he mentioned not to expect it before 2020. that was after I had said i wouldnt buy a L40 due to rapidgate etc (so he had no reason to encourage me to go for an L40 first).


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    rocky
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xn0Ryfv4m8


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    ewj1978
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭ewj1978


    Unkel i understand you're using the math of the L40 aerodynamics for your assumption on range but we've no idea what shape and aero the new L60 will have.


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    KCross
    Registered Users Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    ewj1978 wrote: »
    Unkel i understand you're using the math of the L40 aerodynamics for your assumption on range but we've no idea what shape and aero the new L60 will have.

    I think the reasonable expectation is that the L60 will look the exact same as the L40 since thats a brand new model that fits in with the current look/feel of the Nissan lineup and it was only released a few months ago.

    Very very unlikely that they would have another Leaf shape for the L60.


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    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    KCross wrote: »
    I think the reasonable expectation is that the L60 will look the exact same as the L40 since thats a brand new model that fits in with the current look/feel of the Nissan lineup and it was only released a few months ago.

    Very very unlikely that they would have another Leaf shape for the L60.

    I asked my local Nissan dealer the same question yesterday and he told me they expect the Leaf 40 and Leaf 60 to be sold side by side, with the battery cooled Leaf 60 probably costing around 4-5 k more (in his estimate), so that would mean the Leaf 40 SV spec costing 30k and the Leaf 60 SV spec costing 34-35k after grants. He also said the design of the Leaf 60 would be the same as the current 40.

    Just a pity they can't provide the same 7 year warranty that KIA does.


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