Feeding maize meal

Good loser

Maize meal is cheaper than rolled barley this year.

How high a level can it be fed at - on its own?

_Brian

How much are either of them ?

Good loser

Maize €230 Barley if available €265.

Hard Knocks

_Brian wrote: »

How much are either of them ?

40Kg Rolled Barley ay €12 & supposed to increase by €0.50 shortly.
25kg Flaked Maize @ €7.50

Timmaay

Good loser wrote: »

Maize €230 Barley if available €265.

Paid 255 for barley blown in today. Is maize meal too dusty to use in augers/parlour feeders?

Bass Reeves

Maize has a higher energy than barley but it will slow down the rumen. I had a ration before that was 40% maize but you can go higher issue is it will lower consumption. There was a small bit 8% of wheat in it to keep the rumen moving.However when dealing with these type of ration if you go ibtio higher feeds levels you have to be aware of acidosis

Hard Knocks

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Maize has a higher energy than barley but it will slow down the rumen. I had a ration before that was 40% maize but you can go higher issue is it will lower consumption. There was a small bit 8% of wheat in it to keep the rumen moving.However when dealing with these type of ration if you go ibtio higher feeds levels you have to be aware of acidosis

Could you go 1:1 barley: maize or would you need hulls too?

Base price

Were feeding 12kgs of 40 maize, 25 barley, 20 beet pulp nut, soya and minerals at the minute through the diet feeder with either wheaten or sbs - costing €260 delivered with a min delivery of 5ton.

croot

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Maize has a higher energy than barley but it will slow down the rumen. I had a ration before that was 40% maize but you can go higher issue is it will lower consumption. There was a small bit 8% of wheat in it to keep the rumen moving.However when dealing with these type of ration if you go ibtio higher feeds levels you have to be aware of acidosis

I'm getting HI MAIZE MIX from Kiernans that the rep claimed has acid buffer to stop acidosis and soya hulls to keep the rumen moving. I've a few cows for fattening so first time using something like it. Is what they say true or is it all salesman talk?

Its working out at €275 a ton but I'm only buying 2 ton at the moment.

Pidae.m

My mix at the moment is
2.5 fine meal
1.5 soya
2 barley
Getting 6kg each but there in good grass

Good loser

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Maize has a higher energy than barley but it will slow down the rumen. I had a ration before that was 40% maize but you can go higher issue is it will lower consumption. There was a small bit 8% of wheat in it to keep the rumen moving.However when dealing with these type of ration if you go ibtio higher feeds levels you have to be aware of acidosis

Glanbia 'Guide to Straights' says 'slowly digestible, lower risk of acidosis than with barley or wheat' also 'high levels of inclusion feasible'

Good loser

Pidae.m wrote: »

My mix at the moment is
2.5 fine meal
1.5 soya
2 barley
Getting 6kg each but there in good grass

Hardly need the soya there on good grass. Distillers would fit better, I'd say.

Good loser

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Could you go 1:1 barley: maize or would you need hulls too?

Currently to Frs on grass I am feeding r barley/maize meal/distillers 1/3 each

Base price

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Could you go 1:1 barley: maize or would you need hulls too?

Ii depends on what access to roughage they have. Barley introduced at high levels too quickly will trigger acidosis even on grass. We normally feed a couple of kgs of barley to young stock at grass throughout the year although we add oats and beet pulp nuts during the winter months.

For more intense feeding we build up the percentage of barley but still include beet pulp nuts for dietary fiber through the diet feeder with either hay or straw. Maize meal is added at 10% and built up to 50% over a period of 6 weeks to 2 months while reducing the % of barley and beet pulp. Soya and minerals are added as norm.

Base price

Good loser wrote: »

Hardly need the soya there on good grass. Distillers would fit better, I'd say.

I'm smiling to myself as I read your comment. IMPO distillers grain is overpriced and overrated. Unless you can be guaranteed to receive a dry load (which are few and far between) then your paying €40 odd/ton for a byproduct that is basically water.

Good loser

Base price wrote: »

I'm smiling to myself as I read your comment. IMPO distillers grain is overpriced and overrated. Unless you can be guaranteed to receive a dry load (which are few and far between) then your paying €40 odd/ton for a byproduct that is basically water.

Haven't ever seen 'wet' distillers.



I was referring to dried dist. grains. Bulk delivered price €262.

mahoney_j

Good loser wrote: »

Haven't ever seen 'wet' distillers.



I was referring to dried dist. grains. Bulk delivered price €262.

Protein source of choice here is always soya ,it’s the best protein source on a per unit basis

Pidae.m

Good loser wrote: »

Hardly need the soya there on good grass. Distillers would fit better, I'd say.

Only dropped the distillers a few weeks ago. One last big push, I like to have the land cleared mid November