Stuck window frame

72hundred

Hi,

I’ve a stuck window frame for the last few years and finally trying to fix. It’s in a en suite and on the coast so corrosion is probably the root issue.

What seems to have happened now though is that the driver (square) of the handle is spinning in place and not moving the mechanism.

Any thoughts on how to free it up??

Pictures should be attached.

colm_mcm

see here
https://www.windowanddoorparts.ie/how-to-open-a-broken-upvc-window-lock/

Are any other of window mechanisms actually corroded?

72hundred

72hundred wrote: »

Hi,

I’ve a stuck window frame for the last few years and finally trying to fix. It’s in a en suite and on the coast so corrosion is probably the root issue.

What seems to have happened now though is that the driver (square) of the handle is spinning in place and not moving the mechanism.

Any thoughts on how to free it up??

Pictures should be attached.

Can’t upload images at the moment actually.

72hundred

colm_mcm wrote: »

see here
https://www.windowanddoorparts.ie/how-to-open-a-broken-upvc-window-lock/

Are any other of window mechanisms actually corroded?

Tried the videos cheers.

The “pins” are rusted in situ it seems and considerable force doesn’t move them. Is there a next step?

FrancieBrady

Have you tried repeated applications of WD40?

72hundred

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Have you tried repeated applications of WD40?

3 in 1 oil only so far. I’ll try WD40 if I can get some this morning. Might go on to amazon and get some rush penetrator or similar if they sell such stuff. Anyone have any suggestions what to use?

aluminium

The driver as you call it is made up of an alloy. By forcing the handle you have broken it. Usually it cracks in one corner so when you turn the handle the "driver" spreads and gives no tension to the handle hence "free spinning".

WD 40 etc will give a little help in lubricating the rollers but wont help in opening the window.

Step 1. Look at a similar window else where in the house. Open this window and use the handle and watch which way the rollers move when you open / close handle.
Step 2. Go back to broken window with something similar to a bendy piece of steel (knife). slide this piece into position around the roller and gently tap the roller with steel and hammer.
Step 3. gently push window and it should open.
Step 4. Invoice other half for 130 euro.

You can make a piece of metal thus
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This will fit around the frame.
Remove the rubber around window first to give you more room.

Your next battel is trying to remove the screws which hold the broken lock (espag) in place.

Youtube espag removal

aluminium

diagram above did not turn out as i intended. Ill post a picture.

72hundred

aluminium wrote: »

The driver as you call it is made up of an alloy. By forcing the handle you have broken it. Usually it cracks in one corner so when you turn the handle the "driver" spreads and gives no tension to the handle hence "free spinning".

WD 40 etc will give a little help in lubricating the rollers but wont help in opening the window.

Step 1. Look at a similar window else where in the house. Open this window and use the handle and watch which way the rollers move when you open / close handle.
Step 2. Go back to broken window with something similar to a bendy piece of steel (knife). slide this piece into position around the roller and gently tap the roller with steel and hammer.
Step 3. gently push window and it should open.
Step 4. Invoice other half for 130 euro.

You can make a piece of metal thus
|
|_______________
|
|
|


This will fit around the frame.
Remove the rubber around window first to give you more room.

Your next battel is trying to remove the screws which hold the broken lock (espag) in place.

Youtube espag removal

Is that not the point of the second post of the thread? Is there something different about your post?

aluminium

meeaoow

72hundred

aluminium wrote: »

meeaoow

I suspect you're new-ish to boards and online communities in general. I wish you the very best with it. Boards is an excellent resource. Thanks for your posts. There was no affronting meant as it did seem like a duplication of the information and that you hadn't clicked into that link that was already posted.



Anyways;

The rollers are completely seized in the block. I suspect it's rusted tight. Are there any other tricks (even slightly destructive ones) to get the window open?

aluminium

72hundred wrote: »

I suspect you're new-ish to boards and online communities in general. I wish you the very best with it. Boards is an excellent resource. Thanks for your posts. There was no affronting meant as it did seem like a duplication of the information and that you hadn't clicked into that link that was already posted.



Anyways;

The rollers are completely seized in the block. I suspect it's rusted tight. Are there any other tricks (even slightly destructive ones) to get the window open?

Actually Im on boards and AAM since before the recession kicked in, still remember my first post............ Ahh God be with the days............

Back in the day I'd be called out to open a couple of these a week. Mostly bathroom windows, usually coastal areas. There is only one way in to the rollers / mushrooms and thats the way I described. The most difficult part is taking out the espag lock.

72hundred

72hundred wrote: »

The rollers are completely seized in the block. I suspect it's rusted tight. Are there any other tricks (even slightly destructive ones) to get the window open?

BUMP - any other ideas for this issue short of having to get the entire window replaced?

72hundred

72hundred wrote: »

BUMP - any other ideas for this issue short of having to get the entire window replaced?

Yeah, if you tried the technique in the video and it didn't work for you, you didn't do it right. Not being smart, but you didn't do it right and that's just the simple facts.

So you either have to follow those instructions to a tee, using the same tools shown and using enough force correctly applied or you admit defeat and get a window fitter to come and sort it out for you. If you can't sort it out using simple tools and clear instructions, this is no longer a DIY job for someone who can't DIY.

72hundred

JayZeus wrote: »

Yeah, if you tried the technique in the video and it didn't work for you, you didn't do it right. Not being smart, but you didn't do it right and that's just the simple facts.

So you either have to follow those instructions to a tee, using the same tools shown and using enough force correctly applied or you admit defeat and get a window fitter to come and sort it out for you. If you can't sort it out using simple tools and clear instructions, this is no longer a DIY job for someone who can't DIY.

Thanks, very informative.

There are often confounders when you can't directly visualise the issue.

I think at this point, I might ask that the thread was closed as the no new information has appeared since the first few replies.

72hundred

72hundred wrote: »

Thanks, very informative.

There are often confounders when you can't directly visualise the issue.

I think at this point, I might ask that the thread was closed as the no new information has appeared since the first few replies.

I think at this point we should all ask that the thread be closed in case you try to do some DIY and end up hurting yourself. It seems to be beyond your capabilities to be fair.

massy086

So did you get it open op????

massy086

So did you get it open op????