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Redeveloping older industrial estates for new housing

  • 05-10-2018 9:18pm
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    I'm co-authoring a paper on ways to address the current housing crisis and one of our key recommendations is looking at redeveloping the older industrial estates, the really crappy quality ones built between the 1960s to the 1980s - for instance in the Naas Road area of Dublin and in our other cities - for increased density housing.

    This approach would create new housing in areas relatively close to the city centre - within the M50 in the case of Dublin, close to good public transport links and amenities.

    Do you think this is a good idea? How would we move the existing occupants of such estates which IMO are a waste of valuable land resources?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭newirishman


    Already happening, e.g Sandyford Industrial Estate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,819 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Spray paint "Fuck off Kim Jong Un with your nancy-boy hairdo" on the roofs of the buildings and wait til he has a missile big enough to send over a nuke.


    Profit


    P.S. If you steal my idea for your paper I want credit/citations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,008 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I'd say the current tenants of those well-located industrial estates might have something to say about your plan.


    Also, I presume they're zoned for industry, not residential, so that hurdle would have to be overcome (that's pure speculation on my part, may be completely wrong)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Are you co-authoring with us?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Do we get credited on this paper? And not just an 'et al'.


    Decontamination of industrial sites adds huge costs, depending on prior use.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    I'd support it as long as the people have to actually buy the houses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Not a bad idea, some of those estates are real eyesore.

    I think sorting out the planning process has to be in there too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Building houses on the busiest road in the country, that makes sense......

    Gonna guess you are people before profit or some other ****ing type of eejit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I dont know if the industry necessarily has to be chucked outside the city boundaries, industry has to go somwehre, and people from the city have to commute to work there, so I think its just kicking the can down the road in terms of Dublins density/transport/housing crises by removing them and filling them with houses. But as far as I can see those industrial estates look very unnecessarily spread out and low density. Id say a lot of land could be freed up by placing some of the warehouses closer together, and some land around them freed up to create some residentail areas within the old estate boundaries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,098 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    I'm co-authoring a paper on ways to address the current housing crisis and one of our key recommendations is looking at redeveloping the older industrial estates, the really crappy quality ones built between the 1960s to the 1980s - for instance in the Naas Road area of Dublin and in our other cities - for increased density housing.

    This approach would create new housing in areas relatively close to the city centre - within the M50 in the case of Dublin, close to good public transport links and amenities.

    Do you think this is a good idea? How would we move the existing occupants of such estates which IMO are a waste of valuable land resources?

    Your too late. The Dublin councils are already working on it. So with the success of the rapid build housing it will be implemented by.......

    https://www.google.lv/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/dublin-industrial-estates-could-be-rezoned-for-homes-1.3594127%3fmode=amp


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    they are sh1tholes for a reason. even look at somewhere like parkwest , do you really want to live between major roads, nothing approaching a village. move dublin port and go high

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭matrim


    Glasnevin industrial estate would be a good candidate for this. Near a well serviced road for busses and within walking distance of the LUAS.

    It doesn't even have to be the whole estate. Just take some space around the edges and build some decent apartments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Some tall buildings might also be an idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,888 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    I'm co-authoring a paper on ways to address the current housing crisis and one of our key recommendations is looking at redeveloping the older industrial estates, the really crappy quality ones built between the 1960s to the 1980s - for instance in the Naas Road area of Dublin and in our other cities - for increased density housing.

    This approach would create new housing in areas relatively close to the city centre - within the M50 in the case of Dublin, close to good public transport links and amenities.

    Do you think this is a good idea? How would we move the existing occupants of such estates which IMO are a waste of valuable land resources?

    Look at sandyford industrial estate. It’s what they did there


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