New Reports about Tupac Shakur Death

wadacrack

https://news.avclub.com/tupac-is-alive-and-living-in-malaysia-according-to-sug-1829528220

Wonder will this ever get solved

jamesbere

I saw him yesterday in aldi, loves the super 6 does two pack

super_furry

Sure everyone knows he's living in New Orleans working for Elvis in a roofing business.

jamesbere

super_furry wrote: »

Sure everyone knows he's living in New Orleans working for Elvis in a roofing business.

They where very popular in the ghetto

biko

I'm too lazy to click that link.
Can you give us the gist of it OP?

Beechwoodspark

I’ve often noted that the absolute lowest of the low of Irish society seem to love ‘Pac

seamus

biko wrote: »

I'm too lazy to click that link.
Can you give us the gist of it OP?

The son of the guy who murdered Tupac is making spoof photos of him and claiming he's alive.

Though I am continually in awe that a small-time criminal-turned-rapper who was virtually unknown outside of a niche, who was shot in gang violence over 20 years ago, still has people talking about him.

Outside of the West-Coast US rap scene, Shakur was a nobody. Yet people still know his name. It's kind of mad.

wadacrack

seamus wrote: »

The son of the guy who murdered Tupac is making spoof photos of him and claiming he's alive.

Though I am continually in awe that a small-time criminal-turned-rapper who was virtually unknown outside of a niche, who was shot in gang violence over 20 years ago, still has people talking about him.

Outside of the West-Coast US rap scene, Shakur was a nobody. Yet people still know his name. It's kind of mad.

This is just totally wrong.

Dr. Bre

Still I see no changes

Mickeroo

seamus wrote: »

The son of the guy who murdered Tupac is making spoof photos of him and claiming he's alive.

Though I am continually in awe that a small-time criminal-turned-rapper who was virtually unknown outside of a niche, who was shot in gang violence over 20 years ago, still has people talking about him.

Outside of the West-Coast US rap scene, Shakur was a nobody. Yet people still know his name. It's kind of mad.

He was controversial and a criminal sure but his music was pretty good, though overrated a bit because of his death. He was also in a few fairly successful hollywood films. Calling the west coast rap scene a niche in the early 90's is like calling 70s rock music a niche.

Donald Trump

wadacrack wrote: »

https://news.avclub.com/tupac-is-alive-and-living-in-malaysia-according-to-sug-1829528220

Wonder will this ever get solved

I'll solve it for you OP




Yer man is still dead



Happy now?

NIMAN

Who cares.

sexmag

Suge knights son says he alive in malaysia and has been posting photshopped pictures of tupac with 50 cent and beyonce and they look like they were taking on a dispoable camera in the 90s, yet every one has a phone with a decent camera, he also put up a video of a man dressed in read meant to be tupac however the video was immediately shut down as an audition for the tupca movie in 2013 and was just a randomer who looked like him.

Its all bollox, dude died, leave em be

Mr. CooL ICE

He helped kick out the brits. Here he is on top of the GPO

brainfreeze

wadacrack wrote: »

https://news.avclub.com/tupac-is-alive-and-living-in-malaysia-according-to-sug-1829528220

Wonder will this ever get solved

It's solved, it's been solved for nearly a decade.

Orlando "Baby Lane" Anderson shot Tupac. Duane "Keffe D" Davis, Orlando Anderson Uncle, confessed to the LAPD over a decade back. His confession tape is literally in the public domain.

Orlando Anderson is dead, and Keffe D has federal immunity so he will never be prosecuted, hence the open status. Here is a clip of his confession.

The entire thing was incredibly simple, no mental conspiracy theories needed, but also incredibly incestuous in terms of all the major players are known to each other. It was both random, and yet not random.

Motive: Keffe D (Orlandos Uncle) was a major south side crip. He was also someone Suge knew as they grew up relatively close to each other, even played football with each other before they joined respective rival gangs. Suge wouldn't mess with him, even sort of respected him. For this reason, Puffy hired south side crips as his personal security for badboy artists whenever he was in California, as a deterrent for Suge. He knew if he had Keffe D with him, Suge might back off.

During the height with the beef with Suge and Tupac, Puffy told Keffe D he'd love to get his hands on a deathrow chain, so he could put it in a music video as an attempt to humiliate Tupac. For those not in know, Suge Knight used to hand out Death Row chains to his inner circle, a vanity chain to let others know you are with Suge Knight. Not every artist on Death Row Records had one for example, only people Suge personally liked. Likewise, lots of gang bangers had them that had no role in the record label. Puffy making this off the cuff remark, accidentally put in place both murders.

Travon Lane, one of Suges guys, was walking in a mall a few weeks later. Orlando Anderson, Keffe Ds nephew, sees him and sees this as an opportunity to steal his death row chain. They get into a fight, the chain is snatched, but Travon gets it back after a scuffle.

Fast forward to Las Vegas the night Tupac was shot. Travon Lane, Suge, and Tupac attend the Tyson fight. Orlando Anderson is also in the MGM Hotel, Travon (after being in a fight with him) spots him as the guy that tried to snatch his chain, points him out to Tupac, and Tupac being a hot headed idiot keen to impress, punches Orlando Anderson and a beat down happens. They then flee the casino.

When Orlando returns to Keffe D and friends bruised and battered, he tells them what happened. Keffe D is raging and wants to kill both Tupac and Suge for having the balls to beat his nephew. He has no gun but one of the people there, Zip (who is an associate and close friend of Puffy, and the God Father to Biggies son), gives Keffe his gun.

They know Tupac will be performing in a club called 662 later as it's all over flyers and the radio, so they head around that direction looking for them. They give up and decide to go back to the hotel, and on the way back by coincidence they drive past them. Keffe D is in the passanger seat of the car and can't lean over the driver to shoot, so he hands the gun to Andre Smith who is in the back seat. Andre Smith gets seconds thoughts and chickens out, allegedly saying "nah man, that's Tupac", so Orlando snatchs the gun off him (who is sitting in the back seat with him), leans over Andre and opens fire on the car, mortally wounding Tupac and grazing Suge.

That's it. It's not even secret, there was a resulting gang war over it the following week.

It's also not even a secret in hip hop circles, even rapper the game has a song where he states "Tupac got smoked by Baby Lane, now both of them niggaz dead, over a ****ing death row chain"

Heres the kicker. Keffe D was planning to kill Suge and Tupac anyway. While working security for puffy, Puffy said to him "I'd do anything to get rid of those guys" after he learned Suge badly assaulted Mark Anthony Bell, a music producer for puffy. Keffe D took that serious, and even arranged with Zip, puffys close friend, and how they would go about it. Vegas was a complete random accident, they had no intention of killing Suge and Tupac in vegas, until Tupac assaulted his nephew. Tupac would have never assaulted his nephew if Puffy didn't ask for them to snatch a deathrow chain. It's this weird incestuous circle of ****ups.

Why has nobody been prosecuted:

Keffe D has federal immunity due to another case.
Orlando "baby lane" Anderson is dead.
Andre Smith is dead.
Terrence Brown (Driver) is dead.
Zip died of cancer just before he was going to be arrested for the murder.
Puffy - Without Zip being still alive to collaborate, the Federal Task force decided unlike the others above, a prosecution against Sean Combs would be tough as he could state his words were just venting and not to be taken seriously. Without Zip being still alive to collaborate, Keffes word alone would not convince a jury against a celebrity.


This is not speculation, this is the conclusion of a joint federal task force involving the FBI, The DEA, The LAPD, and Compton PD. The case only remains open in hoping that Keffe D ****s up and invalidates his immunity deal. If he dies before that, which is possible, the case will probably be closed as ruled as unprosecutable.


It is not unsolved.

Netflix have a TV series from the director of The Wire, a dramatic version of the above investigation, called Ironically "Unsolved". It's actually decent and very accurate. Good actors too.

https://www.netflix.com/title/80177416

Or, if you are really interested, lead detective Greg Kading will actually be in Dublin (Next week) to discuss the case with the public. The event is more accurately titled "SOLVED".

https://www.irishmirror.ie/whats-on/greg-kading-tupac-biggie-murders-13126085

If netflix isn't your thing and you want the full story in documentary format, then Murder Rap will do it. It's detail heavy, I just gave a summary.

Murder Rap link

They (The Federal Task Force) also solved the Notorious BIG murder. Due to puffys association to Keffe D, Suge ordered the murder of Biggie. Suges enforcer Wardell "Pouchie" Fouse did the hit. He knew the Notorious B.I.G was innocent, so this murder was slightly more nefarious. He just wanted an eye for an eye, he wanted Puffy to hurt. Wardell was murdered in 2003.


There is no reason in 2018 for people to believe Suge Knight killed Tupac, it's absolutely bonkers and I blame Nick Broomfield for making a sensationalist documentary filled with deliberate falsehoods to sell a narrative. It's absolute bollocks that has been debunked over 15 years ago, yet people on the internet cling to it.


In unrelated news: Some people, including a Death Row artist called Tray Dee who knew Tupac personally, seem to be more offended that Keffe D snitched than they are for murdering their label mate, Tupac. As interesting as this story is, and I'm obsessed by it, these people are all morons with no regard to human life.

Here is Tray Dee being annoyed that Keffe snitched.

https://youtu.be/L9NVJzpD21w?t=172

DEFTLEFTHAND

Suge Knight took a plea deal in his vehicular homicide case recently.

28 years, ouch.

He's had some fall from grace over the past 20 years.

Shanotheslayer

Excellent post by Brainfreeze.

brainfreeze

seamus wrote: »

The son of the guy who murdered Tupac is making spoof photos of him and claiming he's alive.

Though I am continually in awe that a small-time criminal-turned-rapper who was virtually unknown outside of a niche, who was shot in gang violence over 20 years ago, still has people talking about him.

Outside of the West-Coast US rap scene, Shakur was a nobody. Yet people still know his name. It's kind of mad.

This post is wrong on so many levels.

1) Suge didn't kill Tupac, read above.

2) Tupac was literally the most popular rapper in the world at the time period before he died. I find it utterly bizarre how someone can think he was an absolute nobody unknown outside the westcoast, when his final two years alive his albums where dominating at the number one spot.

Remember the monster that was Alanis Morissette Jagged little pill? Tupacs album (All Eyez on Me) knocked that off the number one spot, while still alive.

The year before his other album (Me Against the World) dethroned Bruce Springsteen for the number one spot. He also controversially entered the Guinness book of records that year for being the first artist to have a number one album while being in prison.

It boggles me to why you think he was somehow unknown. He was huge before death, hence why he's massive today. It would be like Eminem dying in 2002/2003.

Sardonicat

Who is Puffy?

LuckyLloyd

Fair play brainfreeze, very thorough overview.

SnazzyPig

wadacrack wrote: »

https://news.avclub.com/tupac-is-alive-and-living-in-malaysia-according-to-sug-1829528220

Wonder will this ever get solved

What does Louise O'Neill have to say on the matter?

padd b1975

Mickeroo wrote: »

He was controversial and a criminal sure but his music was pretty good, though overrated a bit because of his death. He was also in a few fairly successful hollywood films. Calling the west coast rap scene a niche in the early 90's is like calling 70s rock music a niche.

Word.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Sardonicat wrote: »

Who is Puffy?

P.Diddy - Sean Combs.

Part of the East Coast faction during the 'rap wars.'

Sardonicat

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Sardonicat wrote: »

Who is Puffy?

P.Diddy - Sean Combs.

Part of the East Coast faction during the 'rap wars.'

Thanks. Never heard that name before but then I'm not exactly into rap. Heard of P Diddy obviously.

begbysback

One thing more than anything else proves Tupac is dead - Afeni Shakur, poor woman was beside herself - ain't no way anybody is that good of an actor